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Remixing the national anthem
maka
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:36:26 AM
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Am a regular listener of Capital fm in the morning today Dj Joe mfalme did a remix of the national anthem...thought the National Anthem is protected and shouldnt be altered ama those are draconian laws and we are in the digital age?
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Blackberry
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:03:48 AM
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chiaroscuro
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:10:53 AM
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Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...
maka
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:17:53 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...

By the way he can be arrested. We have an act called the National Flag, Armorial Ensigns, Public Seal and National Anthem Act. Under that Act the National Anthem is protected and this is further confirmed by the Consitution in one of the Schedules
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chiaroscuro
#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:27:08 AM
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maka wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...

By the way he can be arrested. We have an act called the National Flag, Armorial Ensigns, Public Seal and National Anthem Act. Under that Act the National Anthem is protected and this is further confirmed by the Consitution in one of the Schedules



Section 2B of said act:
Any person who shows disrespect, in speech, manner or writing, to or with reference to the National Anthem, or to any specified emblem, specified likeness or specified name, or any representation thereof, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding five thousand shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both such fine and such imprisonment.
washiku
#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:26:19 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
maka wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...

By the way he can be arrested. We have an act called the National Flag, Armorial Ensigns, Public Seal and National Anthem Act. Under that Act the National Anthem is protected and this is further confirmed by the Consitution in one of the Schedules



Section 2B of said act:
Any person who shows disrespect, in speech, manner or writing, to or with reference to the National Anthem, or to any specified emblem, specified likeness or specified name, or any representation thereof, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding five thousand shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both such fine and such imprisonment.


Wawawawawa....the what CORD supporters were singing infront of Supreme Court the day the petition was filed as Orengo cheered them was automatically illegal. They had completely changed the lyrics of the Anthem to include theirs..."Natukae na Odinga, Kalonzo na Orengo, raha tupate na Wetangula"
maka
#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:08:54 PM
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washiku wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
maka wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...

By the way he can be arrested. We have an act called the National Flag, Armorial Ensigns, Public Seal and National Anthem Act. Under that Act the National Anthem is protected and this is further confirmed by the Consitution in one of the Schedules



Section 2B of said act:
Any person who shows disrespect, in speech, manner or writing, to or with reference to the National Anthem, or to any specified emblem, specified likeness or specified name, or any representation thereof, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding five thousand shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both such fine and such imprisonment.


Wawawawawa....the what CORD supporters were singing infront of Supreme Court the day the petition was filed as Orengo cheered them was automatically illegal. They had completely changed the lyrics of the Anthem to include theirs..."Natukae na Odinga, Kalonzo na Orengo, raha tupate na Wetangula"

yes it is by the way many people assume this...
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MADE
#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:11:02 PM
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washiku wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
maka wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...

By the way he can be arrested. We have an act called the National Flag, Armorial Ensigns, Public Seal and National Anthem Act. Under that Act the National Anthem is protected and this is further confirmed by the Consitution in one of the Schedules



Section 2B of said act:
Any person who shows disrespect, in speech, manner or writing, to or with reference to the National Anthem, or to any specified emblem, specified likeness or specified name, or any representation thereof, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding five thousand shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both such fine and such imprisonment.


Wawawawawa....the what CORD supporters were singing infront of Supreme Court the day the petition was filed as Orengo cheered them was automatically illegal. They had completely changed the lyrics of the Anthem to include theirs..."Natukae na Odinga, Kalonzo na Orengo, raha tupate na Wetangula"

Methinks when u look at the foresaid Sec 2B, the keyword is DISRESPECT. i.e contempt,disregard of....However, the same Act doesn't issue a stern protection (patent)to the melody or tune of the anthem. It would only be a grave mistake if one purported to change the contents (lyrics) of the anthem to suit some parochial taste. Since time immemorial, hymns,songs, etc have been exploited n copy pasted (modified) to suit a different environment. We vividly remember the ''yote yawezakana bila Moi'' tune yet the church raised no uproar coz it majorly captured the euphoric mood of the masses. There are many acts we do which are not protected otherwise by the constitution. e.g Which Act says you should stand still when the flag is being raised or lowered, yet it has become the norm (as a sign of respect)
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mukiha
#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:15:13 PM
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maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
maka wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Once upon a time, Moi ordered that the anthem should be sung [instead of played] during public functions. But with three stanzas, our anthem is quite long. So he said it is OK to sing just the first one.

This was done for several functions but some one pointed out that there is a law which regulates the singing / playing of the anthem. If you choose to sing it, you MUST sing the full three stanzas; if you choose to play the music alone, then you should only do one stanza.

Upon that realisation, the idea of singing the anthem at public holidays was thrown out the window.

Lawyers in the house can tell us about this law...

By the way he can be arrested. We have an act called the National Flag, Armorial Ensigns, Public Seal and National Anthem Act. Under that Act the National Anthem is protected and this is further confirmed by the Consitution in one of the Schedules



Section 2B of said act:
Any person who shows disrespect, in speech, manner or writing, to or with reference to the National Anthem, or to any specified emblem, specified likeness or specified name, or any representation thereof, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding five thousand shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both such fine and such imprisonment.


Wawawawawa....the what CORD supporters were singing infront of Supreme Court the day the petition was filed as Orengo cheered them was automatically illegal. They had completely changed the lyrics of the Anthem to include theirs..."Natukae na Odinga, Kalonzo na Orengo, raha tupate na Wetangula"

yes it is by the way many people assume this...


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