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mibbz
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:19:44 AM
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Having seen counters come and go with some profit taking in between,am seeking advise on just 1 counter i can put all my resources into with the hope of highest gain.
Am looking advise on an entry and exit price you would consider eg whats a good exit price for access now?
Thanks
guru267
#2 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 5:16:26 AM
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Co op
Entry: 15bob Exit: 25bob (Dec 2013)

Kenya re
Entry: 14bob Exit: 21bob (Dec 2013)

Hfck
Entry: 22.5bob Exit: 32bob (Dec 2013)

Eveready
Entry: 1.85bob Exit: 3bob (Dec 2013

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Gadaffi
#3 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:16:44 AM
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Nbk.
Entry: currently at any price.
Exit: after FY 2013 results in March 2014. Price 55+
Reason: mgnt change frm th top to other depts in retail banking.
the deal
#4 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:21:19 AM
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Putting all your money in one counter (basket) is the worst investment decision one can make...you might be lucky and make money but one day you might wake up and realise that one counter is no longer the talk of town....my advice is spread your risk over 5 counters from 3 different sectors i.e banking, insurance and energy otherwise one counter nindirama kama vindeo smile Talking to a portfolio construction expert like me can also help smile
speculator
#5 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:39:33 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Co op
Entry: 15bob Exit: 25bob (Dec 2013)

Kenya re
Entry: 14bob Exit: 21bob (Dec 2013)


Hfck
Entry: 22.5bob Exit: 32bob (Dec 2013)

Eveready
Entry: 1.85bob Exit: 3bob (Dec 2013


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Neverready in ths list cant touch it with 20ft pole.smile timing the market is it possible to board Kenya re at 12 again?
guru267
#6 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:50:42 PM
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speculator wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Co op
Entry: 15bob Exit: 25bob (Dec 2013)

Kenya re
Entry: 14bob Exit: 21bob (Dec 2013)


Hfck
Entry: 22.5bob Exit: 32bob (Dec 2013)

Eveready
Entry: 1.85bob Exit: 3bob (Dec 2013


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Neverready in ths list cant touch it with 20ft pole.smile timing the market is it possible to board Kenya re at 12 again?


When investing one must be objective... Eveready was a terrible investment at 4bob but at 1.85.. Not so bad!!

Kenya re at 15bob has a P/E of 4.8 and P/B of 0.75... It is cheap now so Goodluck waiting for 12bob!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mlennyma
#7 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:53:57 PM
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If you can get it right,putting money in a single counter is the best option,and especially if the counter is also a good dividend payer...caution is that you must be alcer resistant as this cant burry you alive.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
symbols
#8 Posted : Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:05:10 PM
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KenolKobil and Mumias are not falling as hard.Lets watch how the market reacts to NBK.Waiting for K-Re to reach 12 is ambitious IMO.

@mibbz - This is how I see it.If you're a value investor,the exit price is dependent on what value you see in the share and also your entry price.If you are a trader its as simple as reading the market and the entry/exit price is dictated by market forces.
mibbz
#9 Posted : Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:00:45 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Co op
Entry: 15bob Exit: 25bob (Dec 2013)

Kenya re
Entry: 14bob Exit: 21bob (Dec 2013)

Hfck
Entry: 22.5bob Exit: 32bob (Dec 2013)

Eveready
Entry: 1.85bob Exit: 3bob (Dec 2013



thanks a lot
mibbz
#10 Posted : Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:08:15 PM
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symbols wrote:
KenolKobil and Mumias are not falling as hard.Lets watch how the market reacts to NBK.Waiting for K-Re to reach 12 is ambitious IMO.

@mibbz - This is how I see it.If you're a value investor,the exit price is dependent on what value you see in the share and also your entry price.If you are a trader its as simple as reading the market and the entry/exit price is dictated by market forces.



thanks a lot for the advise.thing is i try do a hybrid between the two,i look for unrealized value but at the same time avoid waiting to achieve an ambitious target by exiting as dictated by the market forces.this year Kengen,Britam,CFC,Access,NMG have followed the curve i look for.
But now am running out of ideas and thought interacting with like minded individuals might help in my analysis.
mibbz
#11 Posted : Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:14:08 PM
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the deal wrote:
Putting all your money in one counter (basket) is the worst investment decision one can make...you might be lucky and make money but one day you might wake up and realise that one counter is no longer the talk of town....my advice is spread your risk over 5 counters from 3 different sectors i.e banking, insurance and energy otherwise one counter nindirama kama vindeo smile Talking to a portfolio construction expert like me can also help smile


Thanks a lot for the offer but since my days in University i avoid unnecessary diversification and a retrospective study i did with my broker reommendations on diversification showed i beat him in returns every quarter over a 2 year period.

I shall continue lumping resources in a max 2 counters at any one time as it works best for me.thanks though
symbols
#12 Posted : Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:32:29 PM
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mibbz wrote:
symbols wrote:
KenolKobil and Mumias are not falling as hard.Lets watch how the market reacts to NBK.Waiting for K-Re to reach 12 is ambitious IMO.

@mibbz - This is how I see it.If you're a value investor,the exit price is dependent on what value you see in the share and also your entry price.If you are a trader its as simple as reading the market and the entry/exit price is dictated by market forces.



thanks a lot for the advise.thing is i try do a hybrid between the two,i look for unrealized value but at the same time avoid waiting to achieve an ambitious target by exiting as dictated by the market forces.this year Kengen,Britam,CFC,Access,NMG have followed the curve i look for.
But now am running out of ideas and thought interacting with like minded individuals might help in my analysis.


Lets take AK,HFCK and Kengen.I have ridden these shares enough times this year but I think my strategy can work in other shares.

I get in a share when I realize that the next resistance level(or what I call a psychological barrier) will give me good returns from a certain entry price.Once I exit I watch to see if the price will recede or its gaining momentum for the next level.As I'm watching some shares,other shares are showing good entry positions.

For example,CFC caught my eyes.It went up and receded so it has already established a barrier and thus I don't have to speculate about the value demand&supply are eying.Next I would check the new base it is trying to establish,track the trades to identify the entry point and wait for it to reach the established barrier.Once the barrier is reached again I watch what happens.
Hunderwear
#13 Posted : Sunday, March 24, 2013 2:45:27 PM
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symbols wrote:
mibbz wrote:
symbols wrote:
KenolKobil and Mumias are not falling as hard.Lets watch how the market reacts to NBK.Waiting for K-Re to reach 12 is ambitious IMO.

@mibbz - This is how I see it.If you're a value investor,the exit price is dependent on what value you see in the share and also your entry price.If you are a trader its as simple as reading the market and the entry/exit price is dictated by market forces.



thanks a lot for the advise.thing is i try do a hybrid between the two,i look for unrealized value but at the same time avoid waiting to achieve an ambitious target by exiting as dictated by the market forces.this year Kengen,Britam,CFC,Access,NMG have followed the curve i look for.
But now am running out of ideas and thought interacting with like minded individuals might help in my analysis.


Lets take AK,HFCK and Kengen.I have ridden these shares enough times this year but I think my strategy can work in other shares.

I get in a share when I realize that the next resistance level(or what I call a psychological barrier) will give me good returns from a certain entry price.Once I exit I watch to see if the price will recede or its gaining momentum for the next level.As I'm watching some shares,other shares are showing good entry positions.

For example,CFC caught my eyes.It went up and receded so it has already established a barrier and thus I don't have to speculate about the value demand&supply are eying.Next I would check the new base it is trying to establish,track the trades to identify the entry point and wait for it to reach the established barrier.Once the barrier is reached again I watch what happens.


@symbols any established base for CFC?
symbols
#14 Posted : Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:22:50 PM
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Hunderwear wrote:
symbols wrote:
mibbz wrote:
symbols wrote:
KenolKobil and Mumias are not falling as hard.Lets watch how the market reacts to NBK.Waiting for K-Re to reach 12 is ambitious IMO.

@mibbz - This is how I see it.If you're a value investor,the exit price is dependent on what value you see in the share and also your entry price.If you are a trader its as simple as reading the market and the entry/exit price is dictated by market forces.



thanks a lot for the advise.thing is i try do a hybrid between the two,i look for unrealized value but at the same time avoid waiting to achieve an ambitious target by exiting as dictated by the market forces.this year Kengen,Britam,CFC,Access,NMG have followed the curve i look for.
But now am running out of ideas and thought interacting with like minded individuals might help in my analysis.


Lets take AK,HFCK and Kengen.I have ridden these shares enough times this year but I think my strategy can work in other shares.

I get in a share when I realize that the next resistance level(or what I call a psychological barrier) will give me good returns from a certain entry price.Once I exit I watch to see if the price will recede or its gaining momentum for the next level.As I'm watching some shares,other shares are showing good entry positions.

For example,CFC caught my eyes.It went up and receded so it has already established a barrier and thus I don't have to speculate about the value demand&supply are eying.Next I would check the new base it is trying to establish,track the trades to identify the entry point and wait for it to reach the established barrier.Once the barrier is reached again I watch what happens.


@symbols any established base for CFC?


Can't really say.Hasn't been in my radar until this week when it started falling.Its one of the shares I want to keep an eye on this week if I'm not already to late to sneak in.
symbols
#15 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 10:34:26 AM
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Might be already too late for me to board CFC safely
jerry
#16 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 10:45:07 AM
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symbols wrote:
Might be already too late for me to board CFC safely

It's rarely safe to board a moving bus. There'll always be another one coming.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
symbols
#17 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 10:49:04 AM
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jerry wrote:
symbols wrote:
Might be already too late for me to board CFC safely

It's rarely safe to board a moving bus. There'll always be another one coming.


That's my problem.I am hoping the market slows down kidogo this week but how it was last week and how it has started out today,I might just be left with no options.
symbols
#18 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 11:43:32 AM
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And there goes my ambtion with CFC.Too lateSad Let me start on Kengen
symbols
#19 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 12:14:33 PM
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speculator wrote:
Kenya re at 12 again?


Watch her pop.
KPLC is getting my attention.She might pull a fast one on us.
mibbz
#20 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 3:04:17 PM
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Been looking at Jubilee,when do they announce their results? i believe its heading towards 300 in the near term,are their results out?
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