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Kenol Kobil deal off!
dunkang
#21 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:03:30 PM
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Deal is off, 8 bob prints.
FY2012 Loss, 5 bob prints.

HATUTAKI NYE NYE NYE, UKILETA NYE NYE NYEEEE....
FIMBO... CHAPA...
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the deal
#22 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:05:51 PM
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Interesting now no one on Wazua owns Kenol Kobil apart from me and @VVS and others...Overall the news came at the right time...its a Friday and by the time the market opens next week...it will be either in a foul or in a euphoric state because of the elections...I expect the FY results to be better than the interim report...I dont expect the stock to get a severe beating...downside from the current price is 15-20%.
youcan'tstopusnow
#23 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:09:54 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Deal is off, 8 bob prints.
FY2012 Loss, 5 bob prints.

HATUTAKI NYE NYE NYE, UKILETA NYE NYE NYEEEE....
FIMBO... CHAPA...


Talking of 5 bob is crazy!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
dunkang
#24 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:20:00 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Deal is off, 8 bob prints.
FY2012 Loss, 5 bob prints.

HATUTAKI NYE NYE NYE, UKILETA NYE NYE NYEEEE....
FIMBO... CHAPA...


Talking of 5 bob is crazy!

Actually i should bd singing that song to my dollar account that has refused to behave, finally, KK am buying with that money at 5 bob after the segemnege guy announces the loss.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

SittingPretty
#25 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:21:48 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
And thats how the cookie crumbles. What a shocker
@ycun, cde. I'm also ready for kk at 9 bob reload.

Aguy, I honestly don't think it comes as too much of a shock. I think there were obvious signs. As someone said, Segman's silence was too loud. Plus the lack of progress on commercial disputes was very unnerving as well...


youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
This is the perfect time for Segman to release those FY12 numbers. Hakuna haja ya kungoja. Let the market digest both sets of news at the same time...

Segman has lost steam! But from an industry point of view it would be a good stock to invest in, that's assuming it reaches the bottom. Stocks aside Puma's entry would have really upset the fuel market, and some of our daily bread!
Timely advice is as lovely as golden apples in a silver basket. Proverbs 25:11
youcan'tstopusnow
#26 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:22:07 PM
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dunkang wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Deal is off, 8 bob prints.
FY2012 Loss, 5 bob prints.

HATUTAKI NYE NYE NYE, UKILETA NYE NYE NYEEEE....
FIMBO... CHAPA...


Talking of 5 bob is crazy!

Actually i should bd singing that song to my dollar account that has refused to behave, finally, KK am buying with that money at 5 bob after the segemnege guy announces the loss.


Hehe. The market knew about the loss a long time ago. It will come as no shocker to anyone. People are actually looking forward to assessing H2 performance...

GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#27 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:22:54 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
This is the perfect time for Segman to release those FY12 numbers. Hakuna haja ya kungoja. Let the market digest both sets of news at the same time...

Hapana. They need to control that capitulation. Release after the sell shock of the deal cancellation. That way that capitulation will have struck selling exhaustion. KQ have done this very well and that's why the price is still above 10/-
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
githundi
#28 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:32:44 PM
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This deal must have been off long time ago. Segman was waiting for the right time to strike the news. 7- 8 bob here we come.
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t-godd
#29 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:37:19 PM
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the deal wrote:
Interesting now no one on Wazua owns Kenol Kobil apart from me and @VVS

No one stopped you from selling. Don't be bitter at those who did! We all had the same piece of information and had freedom of choice. It doesn't hurt to say "I wish I had sold at 16, 15 or 14", because right now the stock is heading down towards your buying price! If you consider that good investment, well good on ya!
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the deal
#30 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:49:07 PM
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t-godd wrote:
the deal wrote:
Interesting now no one on Wazua owns Kenol Kobil apart from me and @VVS

No one stopped you from selling. Don't be bitter at those who did! We all had the same piece of information and had freedom of choice. It doesn't hurt to say "I wish I had sold at 16, 15 or 14", because right now the stock is heading down towards your buying price! If you consider that good investment, well good on ya!

I have no regrets and I'm not bitter either...my only regret was not to buy a good amount at my buying price...if it gets there then well and good...
murchr
#31 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 6:17:00 PM
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And the CEO of the year goes to Segman.....The man knows when to give bad news. Friday afternoon just before market close Applause Applause Applause
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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dunkang
#32 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 6:23:00 PM
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murchr wrote:
And the CEO of the year goes to Segman.....The man knows when to give bad news. Friday afternoon just before market close Applause Applause Applause

Would it have been better if he could just kept quiet?
This Segemnege is causing ulcers to some guys.
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Bettertry
#33 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 7:02:57 PM
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Honestly speaking... y r guys here venting it out on Segman??? U guys r making it sound like he's responsible for this deal backfiring and in someway owes u an apology!!! Newsflash... Segman owes u an iota of no apology (in my view) for the failure of this deal going thru. On the other hand (if it's anything 2 console u) what he does owe u is the performance & wellbeing of the underlying biz!!!

On another note... SHUKA CHINI... KEKE... SHUKA CHINI!!!
We Will Either Find a Way or Create One - HANNIBAL
murchr
#34 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 7:12:10 PM
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Bettertry wrote:
Honestly speaking... y r guys here venting it out on Segman??? U guys r making it sound like he's responsible for this deal backfiring and in someway owes u an apology!!! Newsflash... Segman owes u an iota of no apology (in my view) for the failure of this deal going thru. On the other hand (if it's anything 2 console u) what he does owe u is the performance & wellbeing of the underlying biz!!!

On another note... SHUKA CHINI... KEKE... SHUKA CHINI!!!


Who is venting? The guy is brilliant!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 7:48:46 PM
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Do I own KK? Yeah ;-) ... and do I stress sana? No. [Unlike what I did on KQ when I saw a bleak future].

What I want though is a rapid & large drop in price... ;-)
FY 2012 will be a loss-making year thanks to a horrible H1 & possibly a poor H2 (due to volatility in KES, oil prices and & remaining (unwound) forwards (KES & Oil)...

I agree. Segman should release the 2012 results too. Let the market absorb all the news in one go!

Segman: Yes, a bad year though he remains a shareholder (via options). What he needs to do is decisively attack the issues at hand including employee lawsuits, crush KPC & KPRL, kick Total in the nuts over the joint facilities.

2013: Profitable.

2014: KK back on sale.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwekez@ji
#36 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 9:51:27 PM
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Wednesday, 27th Feb; Deal was said to be ON
Friday, 1st March; Deal is said to be OFF
Tuesday, 5th March; Kazi iendelee .... I'll be buying any irrational offers Drool
mwekez@ji
#37 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 9:52:59 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:


2013: Profitable.

2014: KK back on sale.

BGL
#38 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 10:06:52 PM
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the deal wrote:
Interesting now no one on Wazua owns Kenol Kobil apart from me and @VVS and others...Overall the news came at the right time...its a Friday and by the time the market opens next week...it will be either in a foul or in a euphoric state because of the elections...I expect the FY results to be better than the interim report...I dont expect the stock to get a severe beating...downside from the current price is 15-20%.


mimi ni KK damu and i have said CONSISTENTLY that i didn't want this puma courtship. I am a happy man now.
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
mwekez@ji
#39 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 10:22:33 PM
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KES 12.50 was the going price just before start of Puma talks .... Panic sellers do us proud, deliver a juicy discount
mwekez@ji
#40 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 10:33:50 PM
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c95% of KK shares are held in the hands of 'non-wanjikus'. ... the other c5% is very welcomed to capitulate Drool
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