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BAT (K) FY2012 Results
obiero
#11 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 11:43:11 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,251
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Donwnload it here

Turnover up 6p.c to 30.5B from 28.8B
PBT up to 4.75B from 4.48B
PAT up to 3.27B from 3.09B
EPS up to 32.71 from 30.98
Dividend up to 32.5 from 30.5


Question. Now that all the profits are paid out as dividends. Where do they acquire cash for other needs. And is this A wise model?

BAT is used to giving out almost everything. Its a mature firm with no need to expand just like BBK and Stanchart.
Remember BAT has branches everywhere so its confined to Kenya.
Actually, BBK & SCBK are (almost) in the same boat. The expansion (needs) in Kenya have matured.

Bralirwa in Rwanda also has a 100% dividend payout ratio from its profits hence its never ending rise in share price..

dunkang
#12 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 11:51:50 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/2/2011
Posts: 4,824
Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Donwnload it here

Turnover up 6p.c to 30.5B from 28.8B
PBT up to 4.75B from 4.48B
PAT up to 3.27B from 3.09B
EPS up to 32.71 from 30.98
Dividend up to 32.5 from 30.5


Question. Now that all the profits are paid out as dividends. Where do they acquire cash for other needs. And is this A wise model?

BAT is used to giving out almost everything. Its a mature firm with no need to expand just like BBK and Stanchart.
Remember BAT has branches everywhere so its confined to Kenya.
Actually, BBK & SCBK are (almost) in the same boat. The expansion (needs) in Kenya have matured.

Bralirwa in Rwanda also has a 100% dividend payout ratio from its profits hence its never ending rise in share price..

Safcom is also geographically limited, so +90p.c payout in the near future, or?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 12:41:03 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,361
Location: Nairobi
dunkang wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Donwnload it here

Turnover up 6p.c to 30.5B from 28.8B
PBT up to 4.75B from 4.48B
PAT up to 3.27B from 3.09B
EPS up to 32.71 from 30.98
Dividend up to 32.5 from 30.5


Question. Now that all the profits are paid out as dividends. Where do they acquire cash for other needs. And is this A wise model?

BAT is used to giving out almost everything. Its a mature firm with no need to expand just like BBK and Stanchart.
Remember BAT has branches everywhere so its confined to Kenya.
Actually, BBK & SCBK are (almost) in the same boat. The expansion (needs) in Kenya have matured.

Bralirwa in Rwanda also has a 100% dividend payout ratio from its profits hence its never ending rise in share price..

Safcom is also geographically limited, so +90p.c payout in the near future, or?
No, they need to invest in upgrading the network to handle more data. They are far more mature coz Kenya is 'under-served' as far as telcoms/data is concerned.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ChessMaster
#14 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 12:46:51 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/23/2009
Posts: 1,626
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Donwnload it here

Turnover up 6p.c to 30.5B from 28.8B
PBT up to 4.75B from 4.48B
PAT up to 3.27B from 3.09B
EPS up to 32.71 from 30.98
Dividend up to 32.5 from 30.5


Question. Now that all the profits are paid out as dividends. Where do they acquire cash for other needs. And is this A wise model?

BAT is used to giving out almost everything. Its a mature firm with no need to expand just like BBK and Stanchart.
Remember BAT has branches everywhere so its confined to Kenya.
Actually, BBK & SCBK are (almost) in the same boat. The expansion (needs) in Kenya have matured.

Bralirwa in Rwanda also has a 100% dividend payout ratio from its profits hence its never ending rise in share price..

Safcom is also geographically limited, so +90p.c payout in the near future, or?
No, they need to invest in upgrading the network to handle more data. They are far more mature coz Kenya is 'under-served' as far as telcoms/data is concerned.

I second that.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 2:38:15 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,361
Location: Nairobi
ChessMaster wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Donwnload it here

Turnover up 6p.c to 30.5B from 28.8B
PBT up to 4.75B from 4.48B
PAT up to 3.27B from 3.09B
EPS up to 32.71 from 30.98
Dividend up to 32.5 from 30.5


Question. Now that all the profits are paid out as dividends. Where do they acquire cash for other needs. And is this A wise model?

BAT is used to giving out almost everything. Its a mature firm with no need to expand just like BBK and Stanchart.
Remember BAT has branches everywhere so its confined to Kenya.
Actually, BBK & SCBK are (almost) in the same boat. The expansion (needs) in Kenya have matured.

Bralirwa in Rwanda also has a 100% dividend payout ratio from its profits hence its never ending rise in share price..

Safcom is also geographically limited, so +90p.c payout in the near future, or?
No, they need to invest in upgrading the network to handle more data. They are far more mature coz Kenya is 'under-served' as far as telcoms/data is concerned.

I second that.
Oops! I meant Safaricom is NOT as 'mature' in an 'immature' market therefore re-investment is required. Safcom has a 5-year project to build a fibre network around Nairobi. Furthermore, they need to invest in more 3G base stations as well as prepare for LTE. Data is where it is at!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
symbols
#16 Posted : Monday, March 25, 2013 9:30:14 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2013
Posts: 2,552
One word,SWITCH!
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