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Mumias Sugar HY2012/13 Results
dunkang
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:50:45 AM
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i just thought it needs its own thread.

Revenue Down to 5.43B from 6.92B
Gross Profit Down to 141M from 2,285M
PBT Down to (-1.58B) from +1.18B
PAT Down to (-1.11B) from +0.83B
Basic and Diluted EPS Down (-0.72) from +0.54

I know its not good to give bad news in a hurry, but it must be given anyway!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

kryptonite
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:56:17 AM
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Those results are horrific!
What reasons have been given for the poor performance?
The harder you work, the luckier you get
MoneyMonger
#3 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:03:35 AM
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dunkang wrote:
i just thought it needs its own thread.

Revenue Down to 5.43B from 6.92B
Gross Profit Down to 141M from 2,285M
PBT Down to (-1.58B) from +1.18B
PAT Down to (-1.11B) from +0.83B
Basic and Diluted EPS Down (-0.72) from +0.54

I know its not good to give bad news in a hurry, but it must be given anyway!


A drop in profits was expected given that production slowed in the period as a result of cane shortage. But that, loss is a shock to me! Need the full report to tease out why.
There is nothing as dangerous as an Idea, when there is only one Idea
youcan'tstopusnow
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:07:42 AM
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T.E.R.R.I.B.L.E
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
spearhead
#5 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:15:14 AM
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at 4.35, and still going down.
Aguytrying
#6 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:37:35 AM
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Buffets. better a great company at a fair price, than a fair company at a great price. comes to mind.
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S.Mutaga III
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:48:28 AM
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4.2 has printed...a paka in the making...if they are making losses with the safeguards still in place,I wonder what will happen when safeguards expire...worst stock I ever bought...luckily am out at 4.55 todaysmile
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phylo
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:01:56 AM
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i ask myself what is the contribution from the water bottling plant to the revenue
maka
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:23:20 AM
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At what price would you pick mumias?
possunt quia posse videntur
ChessMaster
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:26:46 AM
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As it stands,liquidation price - costs.Comesa issue put me off a long time ago.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
dunkang
#11 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:29:39 AM
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maka wrote:
At what price would you pick mumias?

Personally, i won't touch this thing until the dust settles i.e. full year results. I have a negligeable amount of them and i will let them stay in the portfolio until they behave.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

kazee
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:31:53 AM
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maka wrote:
At what price would you pick mumias?



There are bidders asking for this monkey at 3.Lol. Don't think I would mind getting some at that price too.

bids qty price
Bid 1 6,600 4.20
Bid 2 50,000 4.00
Bid 3 200,000 3.50
Bid 4 100,000 3.05
Bid 5 200,000 3.00
hisah
#13 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:41:38 AM
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Capitulation as expected. Waiting for that order @3.85 to execute putting the low at 20.6% from previous close @4.85/-

VWAP is still @4.50/- so we have a long way to go down...

Breakouts (up or down) are powerful. Don't catch a falling knife!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
SittingPretty
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:43:48 PM
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Too bad I proved myself right albeit painfully, it was all on the wall. Offloaded half at 4.8,down from 5 the rest I can wait. Been agonizing the whole day looking at this stock!
Timely advice is as lovely as golden apples in a silver basket. Proverbs 25:11
xxxxx
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:48:21 PM
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dunkang wrote:
i just thought it needs its own thread.

Revenue Down to 5.43B from 6.92B
Gross Profit Down to 141M from 2,285M
PBT Down to (-1.58B) from +1.18B
PAT Down to (-1.11B) from +0.83B
Basic and Diluted EPS Down (-0.72) from +0.54

I know its not good to give bad news in a hurry, but it must be given anyway!



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly please use LAT next time not PAT.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I almost collapsedLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
murchr
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:54:31 PM
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SittingPretty wrote:
Too bad I proved myself right albeit painfully, it was all on the wall. Offloaded half at 4.8,down from 5 the rest I can wait. Been agonizing the whole day looking at this stock!


Your broker really messed you, next time do your research.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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dunkang
#17 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:55:47 PM
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xxxxx wrote:
dunkang wrote:
i just thought it needs its own thread.

Revenue Down to 5.43B from 6.92B
Gross Profit Down to 141M from 2,285M
PBT Down to (-1.58B) from +1.18B
PAT Down to (-1.11B) from +0.83B
Basic and Diluted EPS Down (-0.72) from +0.54

I know its not good to give bad news in a hurry, but it must be given anyway!



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly please use LAT next time not PAT.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I almost collapsedLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly its negative PAT
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Aguytrying
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:06:38 PM
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SittingPretty wrote:
Too bad I proved myself right albeit painfully, it was all on the wall. Offloaded half at 4.8,down from 5 the rest I can wait. Been agonizing the whole day looking at this stock!


As time goes by u will wish you sold all. It'll go so low it will be unbelievable.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Impunity
#19 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:51:18 AM
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dunkang wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
dunkang wrote:
i just thought it needs its own thread.

Revenue Down to 5.43B from 6.92B
Gross Profit Down to 141M from 2,285M
PBT Down to (-1.58B) from +1.18B
PAT Down to (-1.11B) from +0.83B
Basic and Diluted EPS Down (-0.72) from +0.54

I know its not good to give bad news in a hurry, but it must be given anyway!



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly please use LAT next time not PAT.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I almost collapsedLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly its negative PAT


Negative profit, yaani ile profit huwekwa kwa bracket!!!
Wapi @guka original wa bijuti?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

hisah
#20 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 7:40:35 AM
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VWAP closed @4.20 as the breakout selloff works its way out. Now all that remains is whether the GFC low @3.40 will hold this ship or not. Looks like KQ around 30, so the room to fall is quite some height. And i hope they don't mention a rights issue. That would just kill it off.

Chart target is 3.40. Beyond their it becomes a paka...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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