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Cde Monomotapa
#3121 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:12:00 AM
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And when the Ugali isn't sufficient for me & family...wageni wajipange - Kenyan Embassy in US advises Kenyans who may be impacted by expected immigration reforms http://www.jambonewspot....ted-immigration-reforms Bright side? Brain-drain reversal [Re-calling the troops]
karanjakinuthia
#3122 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:08:56 AM
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@Hisah, I do see the arbitrage. Gold is perhaps the most emotive market on the planet. It speaks to the heart of history and stability of government. Swings such as those witnessed since August 2011 are reminiscent of the 2006 and 2008 pauses which at the time got the gold bears out from the woods. Markets do their utmost to ensure that they shake out as many players as possible on their way to their maximum price point.

Gold miners have the habit to playing catch-up like little sister, silver, appreciating by several multiples as gold ascends. We have to see what holds for gold on 4th of March and 22nd of March, 2013.

hisah wrote:
@kk - do you see the arbitrage presented by that gold spot vs gold miners spread...



The gold slugging headlines are back on the mainstream media. 'gold is a bubble', 'gold tech readings experience the 'cross of death' hinting more downside risks' etc.

Gold fear is back and weak retail hands are being smoked out (capitulation) as they run for the hills. A cursory scan shows fewer hedge funds are in gold now than pre GFC. Yet the lamestream media calls it a bubble. But going by the vol spike in silver as $29 floor broke down on Wed, it's easy to predict someone is accumulating. That vol spike was similar to that time when silver rallied from $26 to $50.

Points to remember, a large VIX call options contract expiring in April as well as XLF, but a put option were purchased in Feb. Someone expects some big market volatility between now and April.

Btw that Calif tax article you posted above is a sure way of killing state revenues for CA. Horrible tax move it is.

hisah
#3123 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:26:26 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
Breaking just now - MOODY'S STRIPS THE UK OF ITS AAA RATING

http://www.businessinsid...f-its-aaa-rating-2013-2

So Moody's has downgraded the UK. Will the UK sue them like its US sister did to S&P while banning Egan Jones from rating any junk debt (gubberment bonds) issued by the crumbling gubberment debt printing machine.

Interesting but as long as all the Allies in Ideology & Commerce [USD, GBP, EUR, JPY] remain unstable, there's nothing 'stable' about the rating outlook(s). You might also consider ZAR shorts too.

Quick fix? Cut deal with Iran, lift sanctions letting oil flow again breaking the 'supply constraints' charade in the mkts to ease the indirect tax & burden on main-street which by extension stems the rate of econ. decline but err.... Over to B.O & Co.

Too proud to cut a deal with the Iranians.

As for ZAR, I flagged it last year and made some with ZARUSD hitting 9.00. I still expect it to test 9.50 or worse 10 this year due to their econ shrinking esp exports & imported inflation spike.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#3124 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:47:51 AM
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karanjakinuthia wrote:
@Hisah, I do see the arbitrage. Gold is perhaps the most emotive market on the planet. It speaks to the heart of history and stability of government. Swings such as those witnessed since August 2011 are reminiscent of the 2006 and 2008 pauses which at the time got the gold bears out from the woods. Markets do their utmost to ensure that they shake out as many players as possible on their way to their maximum price point.

Gold miners have the habit to playing catch-up like little sister, silver, appreciating by several multiples as gold ascends. We have to see what holds for gold on 4th of March and 22nd of March, 2013.

hisah wrote:
@kk - do you see the arbitrage presented by that gold spot vs gold miners spread...



The gold slugging headlines are back on the mainstream media. 'gold is a bubble', 'gold tech readings experience the 'cross of death' hinting more downside risks' etc.

Gold fear is back and weak retail hands are being smoked out (capitulation) as they run for the hills. A cursory scan shows fewer hedge funds are in gold now than pre GFC. Yet the lamestream media calls it a bubble. But going by the vol spike in silver as $29 floor broke down on Wed, it's easy to predict someone is accumulating. That vol spike was similar to that time when silver rallied from $26 to $50.

Points to remember, a large VIX call options contract expiring in April as well as XLF, but a put option were purchased in Feb. Someone expects some big market volatility between now and April.

Btw that Calif tax article you posted above is a sure way of killing state revenues for CA. Horrible tax move it is.


This makes it for the gold trade.

http://bullmarketthinkin...d-silver-mining-shares/

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#3125 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:39:03 PM
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hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
Breaking just now - MOODY'S STRIPS THE UK OF ITS AAA RATING

http://www.businessinsid...f-its-aaa-rating-2013-2

So Moody's has downgraded the UK. Will the UK sue them like its US sister did to S&P while banning Egan Jones from rating any junk debt (gubberment bonds) issued by the crumbling gubberment debt printing machine.

Interesting but as long as all the Allies in Ideology & Commerce [USD, GBP, EUR, JPY] remain unstable, there's nothing 'stable' about the rating outlook(s). You might also consider ZAR shorts too.

Quick fix? Cut deal with Iran, lift sanctions letting oil flow again breaking the 'supply constraints' charade in the mkts to ease the indirect tax & burden on main-street which by extension stems the rate of econ. decline but err.... Over to B.O & Co.

Too proud to cut a deal with the Iranians.

As for ZAR, I flagged it last year and made some with ZARUSD hitting 9.00. I still expect it to test 9.50 or worse 10 this year due to their econ shrinking esp exports & imported inflation spike.

Great on the ZAR...and if we can see some more Allied GDP bloopers over FY '13 then the Agencies might be on RSA case again; then it's to knock it out the ball park - near Junk. NB: Last year's flurry of RSA down-grades were the 1st since 1994 ('Independence'). Mafwend...the socio-politico-economic world is on a delicate balance...
hisah
#3126 Posted : Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:39:20 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
Breaking just now - MOODY'S STRIPS THE UK OF ITS AAA RATING

http://www.businessinsid...f-its-aaa-rating-2013-2

So Moody's has downgraded the UK. Will the UK sue them like its US sister did to S&P while banning Egan Jones from rating any junk debt (gubberment bonds) issued by the crumbling gubberment debt printing machine.

Interesting but as long as all the Allies in Ideology & Commerce [USD, GBP, EUR, JPY] remain unstable, there's nothing 'stable' about the rating outlook(s). You might also consider ZAR shorts too.

Quick fix? Cut deal with Iran, lift sanctions letting oil flow again breaking the 'supply constraints' charade in the mkts to ease the indirect tax & burden on main-street which by extension stems the rate of econ. decline but err.... Over to B.O & Co.

Too proud to cut a deal with the Iranians.

As for ZAR, I flagged it last year and made some with ZARUSD hitting 9.00. I still expect it to test 9.50 or worse 10 this year due to their econ shrinking esp exports & imported inflation spike.

Great on the ZAR...and if we can see some more Allied GDP bloopers over FY '13 then the Agencies might be on RSA case again; then it's to knock it out the ball park - near Junk. NB: Last year's flurry of RSA down-grades were the 1st since 1994 ('Independence'). Mafwend...the socio-politico-economic world is on a delicate balance...

Greece ran out of stimulus 4yrs after hosting Olympics. SA hosted the world cup and the 4yr stimulus drain cycle is due by 2014. Will they auction those ghost stadia to foot the bill...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
guru267
#3127 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:12:12 AM
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Joined: 1/21/2010
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Location: Nairobi
hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
Breaking just now - MOODY'S STRIPS THE UK OF ITS AAA RATING

http://www.businessinsid...f-its-aaa-rating-2013-2

So Moody's has downgraded the UK. Will the UK sue them like its US sister did to S&P while banning Egan Jones from rating any junk debt (gubberment bonds) issued by the crumbling gubberment debt printing machine.

Interesting but as long as all the Allies in Ideology & Commerce [USD, GBP, EUR, JPY] remain unstable, there's nothing 'stable' about the rating outlook(s). You might also consider ZAR shorts too.

Quick fix? Cut deal with Iran, lift sanctions letting oil flow again breaking the 'supply constraints' charade in the mkts to ease the indirect tax & burden on main-street which by extension stems the rate of econ. decline but err.... Over to B.O & Co.

Too proud to cut a deal with the Iranians.

As for ZAR, I flagged it last year and made some with ZARUSD hitting 9.00. I still expect it to test 9.50 or worse 10 this year due to their econ shrinking esp exports & imported inflation spike.


@hisah you see 10 on the USD/ZAR but you only see a maximum of 90 on the USD/KES??

I thought we are more exposed than they are to economic shocks!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#3128 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:38:57 AM
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guru267 wrote:
hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
hisah wrote:
Breaking just now - MOODY'S STRIPS THE UK OF ITS AAA RATING

http://www.businessinsid...f-its-aaa-rating-2013-2

So Moody's has downgraded the UK. Will the UK sue them like its US sister did to S&P while banning Egan Jones from rating any junk debt (gubberment bonds) issued by the crumbling gubberment debt printing machine.

Interesting but as long as all the Allies in Ideology & Commerce [USD, GBP, EUR, JPY] remain unstable, there's nothing 'stable' about the rating outlook(s). You might also consider ZAR shorts too.

Quick fix? Cut deal with Iran, lift sanctions letting oil flow again breaking the 'supply constraints' charade in the mkts to ease the indirect tax & burden on main-street which by extension stems the rate of econ. decline but err.... Over to B.O & Co.

Too proud to cut a deal with the Iranians.

As for ZAR, I flagged it last year and made some with ZARUSD hitting 9.00. I still expect it to test 9.50 or worse 10 this year due to their econ shrinking esp exports & imported inflation spike.


@hisah you see 10 on the USD/ZAR but you only see a maximum of 90 on the USD/KES??

I thought we are more exposed than they are to economic shocks!

Forex is an interesting casino smile

KES smashing contest was back in 2011. Nobody expected it... Unless KE goes into chaos, KES smackdown is not likely. And the fact that mainstreet (wanjikus) expect it (herd mentality), it's a zero trade! And now CBK is desperate, they'll go rogue if attacked. Don't fight the CB until WB gives the greenlight.

In SA I continue to see the opposite of KE. Downgrades, labour wars (miners), world cup stimulus emptying etc. Nobody expects it... Watch JSE nosedive at some point.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#3129 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:43:12 AM
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With the looming KE power bill hikes by KPLC, which will definitely spike inflation, if it were Bulgaria this is what would happen - http://www.guardiannews....rnment-resigns-protests

Quote:
Bulgaria's government has resigned from office
on Wednesday/yesterday after nationwide
protests against high electricity prices and
austerity measures. The prime minister, Boiko Borisov, had tried to
calm protests by sacking his finance minister and
pledging to cut power prices and punish
foreign-owned companies, but the moves failed
to defuse discontent, and demonstrations
continued on Tuesday. Many Bulgarians are deeply unhappy about high
energy costs, power monopolies, low living
standards and corruption in the European
Union's poorest country.

Borisov has said the electricity distribution
licence of central Europe's largest listed
company, Czech-based CEZ will be revoked,
setting Bulgaria on a collision course with the
Czech Republic.



Power distribution in Bulgaria is
controlled by two Czech firms and one Austrian one.

Protests continued even after Finance Minister/
Deputy Prime Minister Djankov fell on his own
sword, resigning February 18. Djankov is a former
World Bank economist and kept Borisov on the
strictly orthodox policy path.



This Bulgaria story reminds me of Bolivia water bill revolt vs Bechtel that brought down the govt back then.

http://earthjustice.org/...livia-water-revolt-case
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
ChessMaster
#3130 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:08:29 AM
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@hisah and all - How are things in the global markets. Equities,currencies,interest rates,defaults,gold/silver...Highly appreciated.Have been following the posts but haven't been tracking the global scene this year.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
hisah
#3131 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:01:38 AM
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ChessMaster wrote:
@hisah and all - How are things in the global markets. Equities,currencies,interest rates,defaults,gold/silver...Highly appreciated.Have been following the posts but haven't been tracking the global scene this year.

Summary - currency wars aka competitive currency devaluation is picking up. Money printing (quantitative easing - QE) tsunami is at a record, mostly 0 - 1% CB funding rates to support record high QEs, gold/silver market getting hammered despite all the above! Manipulation at its best. Despite the gold/silver market manipulation, post GFC those two metals have outperformed global markets by far! Despite the money printing spree deflation is still in play as people refuse to spend and pay up debt. Govts vs civil discontent escalating with political heads rolling as civil pressure becomes hard to contain.

This site has a good recap - http://www.creditwritedowns.com


$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
ChessMaster
#3132 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:05:27 AM
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hisah wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@hisah and all - How are things in the global markets. Equities,currencies,interest rates,defaults,gold/silver...Highly appreciated.Have been following the posts but haven't been tracking the global scene this year.

Summary - currency wars aka competitive currency devaluation is picking up. Money printing (quantitative easing - QE) tsunami is at a record, mostly 0 - 1% CB funding rates to support record high QEs, gold/silver market getting hammered despite all the above! Manipulation at its best. Despite the gold/silver market manipulation, post GFC those two metals have outperformed global markets by far! Despite the money printing spree deflation is still in play as people refuse to spend and pay up debt. Govts vs civil discontent escalating with political heads rolling as civil pressure becomes hard to contain.

This site has a good recap - http://www.creditwritedowns.com




You've covered everything.I even forgot debt. Let me learn more from the site.Thank you.You've got very insightful sites and opinions.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
hisah
#3133 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:35:01 AM
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This guy was called a hoax when he told BBC that GS rules the world and not gubberments - http://www.businessinsid...-alessio-rastani-2011-9

So far we know ex GS guys man US treasury. What about Europe?



And finally the last piece fits in after the rating downgrade of UK.



What a spectacular GS consolidation plan this is. This should be an all time case study on how to corner continents without military hardware. Very cheap this corporatocracy (as John Perkins would call it) strategy.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
ChessMaster
#3134 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 1:41:27 AM
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"Cyber Pearl Harbor"
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Cde Monomotapa
#3135 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 7:35:55 AM
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More from Sino-Zim: 'We are confident about the future of Zimbabwe' says China http://www.herald.co.zw/...-stories&Itemid=130 | Zim, China sign 3 MoU's http://www.sundaymail.co...-stories&Itemid=130 NB: The issue with main-street Zim (and Africa by extension) is not realizing that what they need is Investment & Trade, period. Still caught up in the personality cults creations of the (hostile) West yet food on the table is food on the table. SMH...Oh well...
Cde Monomotapa
#3136 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:35:52 AM
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^I mean, if your goods & services no longer sell here, you look for another mkt elsewhere - & that's biz, nothing personal. Now that it happens that Real demand is on the East, South & Africa you reinvent yourself, create new ties & remain relevant, unless running a Charity... smile
hisah
#3137 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 8:58:35 AM
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ChessMaster wrote:

The message was passed way back in 2007. Watch Die Hard 4.

Now we have Die Hard 5 released 2 weeks back. Spot the message...

Internet control is the only option for corrupt corporate govts to control information flow. Citizen are becoming too informed beyond school doctrines thus becoming uncontrollable...

Council for Foreign Relations. World Economic Forum, Bilderberg group etc worried about this information freedom. It's bad for globalization schemes...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#3138 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 9:10:50 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/w...jYg&feature=related

I really like it when CNBC dismisses gold and calls P. Schiff (a gold bull) to smash him on the same.

Golden trade coming up as it vaults past $2000 mark against the expectations of a crash to $1300. Herd mentality is ALWAYS bad business...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
ChessMaster
#3139 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 9:14:33 AM
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hisah wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:

The message was passed way back in 2007. Watch Die Hard 4.

Now we have Die Hard 5 released 2 weeks back. Spot the message...

Internet control is the only option for corrupt corporate govts to control information flow. Citizen are becoming too informed beyond school doctrines thus becoming uncontrollable...

Council for Foreign Relations. World Economic Forum, Bilderberg group etc worried about this information freedom. It's bad for globalization schemes...


Yeah.It felt like I was reading about Die Hard 4.I don't think they will be able to control the internet at least not without a fight.I learnt that from Egypt when they shut off the internet and it got restored.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
hisah
#3140 Posted : Monday, February 25, 2013 10:15:27 AM
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My latest fascination is the UK. They're on a power hike while devaluation of the pound is likely. The fireworks will be interesting going by last year's London protest. This is a lethal cocktail waiting for a trigger. On the same platform is Spain.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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