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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Njung'e wrote:Sasa iko nini hapa?  .....Is there a silent war going on?  No Njung'e. No wars on my side. I just fear the more I talk the more proud I become. Humility is a goal of mine. Humility or pride come with knowing the 'I'. If you are feeling proud then you are seeing yourself. Work your faith more till the only 'I' remaining is the most high God. The journey has never been easy. It is a test of fire. I have accepted its not easy.I've finally seen life as a walk through a gallery,more of appreciation and less of criticism. I have resolved myself to the possibility that I might never know the truth or the 'I' but my passion for discovering both just burns more from that. ChessMaster, define 'faith'. Ah,faith.This time I won't use the dictionary. Faith is a personal belief in which you are willing to commit yourself to through good and bad times. Define more rigorously. Faith and belief are the same. No?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Njung'e wrote:Sasa iko nini hapa? .....Is there a silent war going on? No Njung'e. No wars on my side. I just fear the more I talk the more proud I become. Humility is a goal of mine. Humility or pride come with knowing the 'I'. If you are feeling proud then you are seeing yourself. Work your faith more till the only 'I' remaining is the most high God. The journey has never been easy. It is a test of fire. I have accepted its not easy.I've finally seen life as a walk through a gallery,more of appreciation and less of criticism. I have resolved myself to the possibility that I might never know the truth or the 'I' but my passion for discovering both just burns more from that. ChessMaster, define 'faith'. Ah,faith.This time I won't use the dictionary. Faith is a personal belief in which you are willing to commit yourself to through good and bad times. Define more rigorously. Faith and belief are the same. No? I can believe in a lot of things but I have faith in a few things. The difference to me is the amount of investment I place in the belief and how much I let it define me and my actions. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 320
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"3rd, of Methidor year 1ER." Right! Fancy date we have here. Let me look at the regime. I will resume questioning later. Light Bearer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster, therefore the 'I' is real, and it chooses real things called 'investments'.
What differentiates between what you believe in, and what you have faith in? Illusion?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Annti_Christy wrote:
"3rd, of Methidor year 1ER."
Right! Fancy date we have here. Let me look at the regime. I will resume questioning later.
I forgot to give the day. Day of worship and contemplation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Can a man believe, what he cannot believe?
If yes, then faith doesn't exist. And God doesn't exist. Energy doesn't exist. There's nothing.
But there's something, isn't there? Why? What is there?
The man and the butterfly, Man God!
I am!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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ChessMaster wrote:Njung'e wrote:Sasa iko nini hapa? .....Is there a silent war going on? No Njung'e. No wars on my side. I just fear the more I talk the more proud I become. Humility is a goal of mine.  I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Njung'e wrote:Sasa iko nini hapa? .....Is there a silent war going on? No Njung'e. No wars on my side. I just fear the more I talk the more proud I become. Humility is a goal of mine. Humility or pride come with knowing the 'I'. If you are feeling proud then you are seeing yourself. Work your faith more till the only 'I' remaining is the most high God. The journey has never been easy. It is a test of fire. I have accepted its not easy.I've finally seen life as a walk through a gallery,more of appreciation and less of criticism. I have resolved myself to the possibility that I might never know the truth or the 'I' but my passion for discovering both just burns more from that. ChessMaster, define 'faith'. Ah,faith.This time I won't use the dictionary. Faith is a personal belief in which you are willing to commit yourself to through good and bad times. let those who have ears hear I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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tycho wrote:Faith is action. @Tycho: you still believe I 'take this illusion business too far?" "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:Can a man believe, what he cannot believe?
If yes, then faith doesn't exist. And God doesn't exist. Energy doesn't exist. There's nothing.
But there's something, isn't there? Why? What is there?
The man and the butterfly, Man God!
I am! There is something. What is there I cannot say conclusively. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:tycho wrote:Faith is action. @Tycho: you still believe I 'take this illusion business too far?" Yes. All isn't illusion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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@digitek1 - Thank you. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Can a man believe, what he cannot believe?
If yes, then faith doesn't exist. And God doesn't exist. Energy doesn't exist. There's nothing.
But there's something, isn't there? Why? What is there?
The man and the butterfly, Man God!
I am! There is something. What is there I cannot say conclusively. That is the meaning of being. Then you must consider what you mean by 'finality'. You could be speaking of death. Consider 'finality' in the context of eternity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:Can a man believe, what he cannot believe?
If yes, then faith doesn't exist. And God doesn't exist. Energy doesn't exist. There's nothing.
But there's something, isn't there? Why? What is there?
The man and the butterfly, Man God!
I am! There is something. What is there I cannot say conclusively. That is the meaning of being. Then you must consider what you mean by 'finality'. You could be speaking of death. Consider 'finality' in the context of eternity. I don't think death is final. I believe eternity is the nature of our existence death is just a transition period. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Man wasn't created to die. He always dies by his hand. And he dies because he is not reconciled to his identity.
But whosoever believes in the way, the truth and life, shall surely not see death.
Abundant life, lol, beyond 'belief'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:Man wasn't created to die. He always dies by his hand. And he dies because he is not reconciled to his identity.
But whosoever believes in the way, the truth and life, shall surely not see death.
Abundant life, lol, beyond 'belief'.
That's where my faith lies. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/12/2011 Posts: 237
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U know the creator must feel really bad when u call His creation ILLUSION! Can you imagine a car you design and build - a Merc Benz for example, calling itself an amorphous assemblage of fiber, metal, plastic,rubber and wood? instead of doing what its supposed to do? A better question to tackle in life is: What's the purpose of my existence? What good can I do to further the work of my creator? We make or break our own tomorrows today!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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The way, is the day to day working of your faith.
The truth is that the way leads to the Kingdom of completeness and pleasure and worship.
The life is the being in that Kingdom. The speech, the laughter, hahaha! The 'Civilization'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:The way, is the day to day working of your faith.
The truth is that the way leads to the Kingdom of completeness and pleasure and worship.
The life is the being in that Kingdom. The speech, the laughter, hahaha! The 'Civilization'. Is everyone on a path to completeness? Individually and collectively. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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