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Mocality shutting down!
wanyee
#31 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:59:33 PM
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Its sounds like an online web Mall where you let the seller put up stores...in the lines of My-space ...Yes crooks ....they will be there..

it can as simple as scrolling ticker of prices with the option of selecting and bidding hope am not over thinking heresmile
KenyanLyrics
#32 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:00:56 PM
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The answers here are very informed. Wazuans clearly understand the internet.
I share the opinion that high cash burn was the cause of death of Mocality. The business model was fine, and its evident to me that they were making money. Deals and ads were selling on the site. They were probably making a few hundred thousand per month. Problem is, from information I have gathered, that would cover the salary of only one executive at Mocality.
I think this problem can be solved by Naspers stopping their approach of doing startups as internal company projects. Their employees will always ask for high salaries and posh offices which kill the startup. Instead, Naspers should take all the money they have for new projects and invest in younger, cheaper tech talent in the respective countries.
ChessMaster
#33 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:13:27 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
The answers here are very informed. Wazuans clearly understand the internet.
I share the opinion that high cash burn was the cause of death of Mocality. The business model was fine, and its evident to me that they were making money. Deals and ads were selling on the site. They were probably making a few hundred thousand per month. Problem is, from information I have gathered, that would cover the salary of only one executive at Mocality.
I think this problem can be solved by Naspers stopping their approach of doing startups as internal company projects. Their employees will always ask for high salaries and posh offices which kill the startup. Instead, Naspers should take all the money they have for new projects and invest in younger, cheaper tech talent in the respective countries.


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Wah,thats a shocker.But now you've got me and a lot of other techies interested.It means if you can lower your costs to a few people you can harvest where the big boys can't.
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ChessMaster
#34 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:44:20 PM
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@wanyee - How would you deal with distribution to flats?Because of the way Kenyans have built them in some areas I find it a major hurdle.
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alma
#35 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:18:25 PM
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Agreed with you Kenyanlyrics. Their execs are recycled overpaid "marketing" fellows. I once asked one of them why they were using a billboard and he told me "for visibility". Therein lies the problem.

Visibility to whom?

Poor people walking to work and seeing a billboard can see you, but are they your customers?

That's also the problem with this mobile thingi. So what if 1million mobile users can access my products or services. If they can't afford it, I'm talking to the wrong people.

I'm not a believer in mobile apps, nor websites nor lack of websites.

I'm a believer that these are just tools to complement business.

If my customers will buy my shoe through a mobile app, then I will create it. But I will not create a mobile app simply because there are a lot of shoeless Kenyans who will find it easy to buy the shoe. What if they can't afford the shoe?

Technology is not the solution to problems. It is a means to reduce work load of a solution.

If I have a shop, I must first make a profit from that shop. So I know that if I buy x and sell at y I make a profit.

Only then will I scale up. Scale up may mean I open another shop, open a branch in Uganda, create a website so more people can see my product and even create an app.

But the business must come first. That is why many tech firms fail. They have no business from day 1 but grand solutions to problems that don't exist. Someone say m-farm, m-kesho, m-xxxx, m-nobusiness idea.

Now add the iHub NGO mentality and you have a recipe for disaster. I'm hundred percent sure that the first online venture to take off in Kenya will be done by a mama mboga.
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wanyee
#36 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:13:08 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
@wanyee - How would you deal with distribution to flats?Because of the way Kenyans have built them in some areas I find it a major hurdle.

it depends ....see how Zuku are all over the place may be a subscription based address system where the caretaker gives a pigeon hole/box as an incentive for any mail/parcel delivery ..then the distribution company can rent our a small room for these at every convenient located flat or even franchise it to nearby Kiosk/ mpesa the same way KPLC pre-paid services are being done..d'oh! Think
i over-thought that onesmile
wanyee
#37 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:17:02 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
@wanyee - How would you deal with distribution to flats?Because of the way Kenyans have built them in some areas I find it a major hurdle.

A supply chain management specialist can come with an elaborate advice may be
wanyee
#38 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:26:36 PM
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G4S parcel services have delivery truck stationed in some areas like westlands for parcel delivery... that may work having a van station in a given locality for sub-delivery then last mile can be done via foot-bikes ....mimic the supply chain of street pharmacists in the US or in our local case the weed dealer
ChessMaster
#39 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:18:23 PM
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alma wrote:
Agreed with you Kenyanlyrics. Their execs are recycled overpaid "marketing" fellows. I once asked one of them why they were using a billboard and he told me "for visibility". Therein lies the problem.

Visibility to whom?

Poor people walking to work and seeing a billboard can see you, but are they your customers?

That's also the problem with this mobile thingi. So what if 1million mobile users can access my products or services. If they can't afford it, I'm talking to the wrong people.

I'm not a believer in mobile apps, nor websites nor lack of websites.

I'm a believer that these are just tools to complement business.

If my customers will buy my shoe through a mobile app, then I will create it. But I will not create a mobile app simply because there are a lot of shoeless Kenyans who will find it easy to buy the shoe. What if they can't afford the shoe?

Technology is nohttp://wazua.co.ke/Images/Emoticons/eusa_clap.gift the solution to problems. It is a means to reduce work load of a solution.

If I have a shop, I must first make a profit from that shop. So I know that if I buy x and sell at y I make a profit.

Only then will I scale up. Scale up may mean I open another shop, open a branch in Uganda, create a website so more people can see my product and even create an app.

But the business must come first. That is why many tech firms fail. They have no business from day 1 but grand solutions to problems that don't exist. Someone say m-farm, m-kesho, m-xxxx, m-nobusiness idea.

Now add the iHub NGO mentality and you have a recipe for disaster. I'm hundred percent sure that the first online venture to take off in Kenya will be done by a mama mboga.


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Spot on.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#40 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:20:43 PM
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wanyee wrote:
G4S parcel services have delivery truck stationed in some areas like westlands for parcel delivery... that may work having a van station in a given locality for sub-delivery then last mile can be done via foot-bikes ....mimic the supply chain of street pharmacists in the US or in our local case the weed dealer


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Thought of something similar. This is one tough nut to crack.
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