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wanyee		#21 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 3:59:32 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... www.businessballs.com
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alma		#22 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:27:06 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432		wanyee wrote: Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... Again we are overthinking. Mocality did not fail because they didn't have a mobile solution. They failed because they did not have enough business. Business is simple and has always been Buy at price X + Get people interested in X + Sell to people at price (x+y%) How you do that is the details. I guess the problem with most of us business people is that we are so stuck up on the details we forget the business. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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ChessMaster		#23 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:32:14 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		alma wrote: wanyee wrote: Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... Again we are overthinking. Mocality did not fail because they didn't have a mobile solution. They failed because they did not have enough business. Business is simple and has always been Buy at price X + Get people interested in X + Sell to people at price (x+y%) How you do that is the details. I guess the problem with most of us business people is that we are so stuck up on the details we forget the business. @wanyee - Feature phones will be replaced by smartphones especially because of apps like whatsapp but you'll still be left with a problem like alma said,business. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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wanyee		#24 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:53:51 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		ChessMaster wrote: alma wrote: wanyee wrote: Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... Again we are overthinking. Mocality did not fail because they didn't have a mobile solution. They failed because they did not have enough business. Business is simple and has always been Buy at price X + Get people interested in X + Sell to people at price (x+y%) How you do that is the details. I guess the problem with most of us business people is that we are so stuck up on the details we forget the business. @wanyee - Feature phones will be replaced by smartphones especially because of apps like whatsapp but you'll still be left with a problem like alma said,business. I concur but i thought i was addressing that problem by involving more people( with "tumulika mwizis" ) into the "business" because people are buying goods at the moment ...--->business ,,just that they are not using the method of Mocality ..i.e via the web. www.businessballs.com
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wanyee		#25 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		Then the problem would why didnt they have enough business ..i think penetration and kenyans are obsessed with their tu phones and sms remember that sms lottery thing 5555 or something? www.businessballs.com
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ChessMaster		#26 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:02:06 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		wanyee wrote: ChessMaster wrote: alma wrote: wanyee wrote: Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... Again we are overthinking. Mocality did not fail because they didn't have a mobile solution. They failed because they did not have enough business. Business is simple and has always been Buy at price X + Get people interested in X + Sell to people at price (x+y%) How you do that is the details. I guess the problem with most of us business people is that we are so stuck up on the details we forget the business. @wanyee - Feature phones will be replaced by smartphones especially because of apps like whatsapp but you'll still be left with a problem like alma said,business. I concur but i thought i was addressing that problem by involving more people( with "tumulika mwizis" ) into the "business" because people are buying goods at the moment ...--->business ,,just that they are not using the method of Mocality ..i.e via the web. I'm on the same page with you.Waiting for people to shift so M-commerce can take off. One reason though I agree with alma is that there are some issues even if people convert.For one thing,Kenyans love bargaining and that needs to be addressed when it comes to M/E-commerce.There is an opportunity but business sense will convert that opportunity into money. I wonder why mocality didn't focus on mobile solutions,it is the dominant means of access to the web for Africans. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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ChessMaster		#27 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:06:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		wanyee wrote: Then the problem would why didnt they have enough business ..i think penetration and kenya are obsessed with their tu phones and sms remeber that sms lottery thing 5555 or something? The lottery things are more about making easy money. I think they didn't focus on understanding how Kenyans relate with the web and what they are comfortable to do with it.I don't know about the deals side of the business but seriously,if your are doing something that works on location shouldn't you also focus on a GPS app and promote it well. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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wanyee		#28 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:10:37 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		ChessMaster wrote: wanyee wrote: ChessMaster wrote: alma wrote: wanyee wrote: Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... Again we are overthinking. Mocality did not fail because they didn't have a mobile solution. They failed because they did not have enough business. Business is simple and has always been Buy at price X + Get people interested in X + Sell to people at price (x+y%) How you do that is the details. I guess the problem with most of us business people is that we are so stuck up on the details we forget the business. @wanyee - Feature phones will be replaced by smartphones especially because of apps like whatsapp but you'll still be left with a problem like alma said,business. I concur but i thought i was addressing that problem by involving more people( with "tumulika mwizis" ) into the "business" because people are buying goods at the moment ...--->business ,,just that they are not using the method of Mocality ..i.e via the web. I'm on the same page with you.Waiting for people to shift so M-commerce can take off. One reason though I agree with alma is that there are some issues even if people convert.For one thing,Kenyans love bargaining and that needs to be addressed when it comes to M/E-commerce.There is an opportunity but business sense will convert that opportunity into money. I wonder why mocality didn't focus on mobile solutions,it is the dominant means of access to the web for Africans. In terms of placing bids...the same thing sms bidding am sure if a good coder gets the pseudo-code right an exciting gaming -like process where a customer can be c̶o̶n̶f̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ convinced that they got a good bargain remember Kenyans like to feel that way www.businessballs.com
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ChessMaster		#29 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:17:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626		wanyee wrote: ChessMaster wrote: wanyee wrote: ChessMaster wrote: alma wrote: wanyee wrote: Actually the challenge in the scenario would be how to convert the average "mulika Mwizi" phone into a m-commerce gadget..that can be used to search and select goods evaluate pricing and even allow multi media interaction..some few guys could play around with its architecture to allow that..impossible?... Again we are overthinking. Mocality did not fail because they didn't have a mobile solution. They failed because they did not have enough business. Business is simple and has always been Buy at price X + Get people interested in X + Sell to people at price (x+y%) How you do that is the details. I guess the problem with most of us business people is that we are so stuck up on the details we forget the business. @wanyee - Feature phones will be replaced by smartphones especially because of apps like whatsapp but you'll still be left with a problem like alma said,business. I concur but i thought i was addressing that problem by involving more people( with "tumulika mwizis" ) into the "business" because people are buying goods at the moment ...--->business ,,just that they are not using the method of Mocality ..i.e via the web. I'm on the same page with you.Waiting for people to shift so M-commerce can take off. One reason though I agree with alma is that there are some issues even if people convert.For one thing,Kenyans love bargaining and that needs to be addressed when it comes to M/E-commerce.There is an opportunity but business sense will convert that opportunity into money. I wonder why mocality didn't focus on mobile solutions,it is the dominant means of access to the web for Africans. In terms of placing bids...the same thing sms bidding am sure if a good coder gets the pseudo-code right an exciting gaming -like process where a customer can be c̶o̶n̶f̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ convinced that they got a good bargain remember Kenyans like to feel that way Surprisingly 'gamification' is being taken up by business. I think what would work in Kenya is a site that doesn't tell attract sellers but buyers.Basically you come to tell people what you want then you let the sellers fight over your business. The sellers with the best prices and quality will eventually flourish and the buyer gets a good price.Just an idea.Though,you would also have to think of how to filter out the crooks. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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deadpoet		#30 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:55:46 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 506		Mocality deals should have focused exclusively on booze!
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