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mawinder
#21 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 4:53:13 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
mawinder wrote:
If the bully does not have security detail like president Kibaki's I know some guys who can deal with the bully once and for all.


Mawinder this. Mawinder that.


aish Mawinder you are a jerk of all trade! from 5 acres becoming 6.5 acres to let us just say helping in eliminations!

No.Just interact with people and never look down upon people including remandees and prisoners.
AlphDoti
#22 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:14:16 PM
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mawinder wrote:
essyk wrote:
mawinder wrote:
I once had such a manager.It reached a point,I couldn't take it anymore.I got some investigators and they brought me information on the manager and the ceo.I then send someone to tell the ceo how the manager brags that he is wealthy,how he tells people that the ceo's dad was a watchman,how he tells people that the ceo has a son with his former housegirl and how he has planted charms in the ceo's office although for this I liaised with a cleaner who put a tree bark at a location in the office.The ceo was shocked at the information and from then sat on the manager and 3 months later,he was sacked.

Pray Pray Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I missed this part.Honestly Mawinder?

Yes,and the tree bark was just to prove my false accusations,the ceo was scared but I was smiling inwardly.The informer later was rewarded with a plum job.

@mawinder you're nuts!!! How did I miss this thread?

I think you just have to stand up for these fools and don't let them bully you.

However, if it is your boss, then you need another strategy i.e.
1). Be very organized
2). keep track of everything emails
3). Manage your boss as follows:
4). when he/she asks you to do something at 8am take note of that,
5). when he/she calls you at 8:30am for another job remind him of the 1st job that started at 8am and was taking 2hrs,
6). Let him/her choose whether to stop working on the 1st job or not.
7). If he says drop no.1 and embark on no.2, remind him/that you after you're done with no.2, you will need 1h 30mins later to complete no.1, which was only 30mins through.
8). Repeat (5) to (7) for job no.3, 4, ...n
9). When total time for the jobs in that day => 8 hours, raise a flag and tell your boss that so far all these jobs will take more than today!!
10). Let him decide
11). when you go back to your desk, summarize what you just discussed and agreed with him/her on email and send saying "As discussed..." and copy his/her boss, then smile and get on with work, kubaff Dancing

Don't be rude, don't argue, don't smile, but just be professional.
tuvok
#23 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:28:54 PM
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"One time, I was too depressed, that I thought of ganging up with 3 fellow workmates,wear black hoods and wait for the bully in the lift late evening so we could give her a beating or tie her to a tree and just go home."

I know of such an incident... Guy was roughed up in a dark toilet. I think he mellowed after that.
Angelica _ann
#24 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:34:37 PM
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@alphadoti, nice reply but some bosses dont give you time to explain yourself. how will you explain that you are not yet through with this and that.

Your 'kubaff' looks sarcastic whereas you are advocating that the oppressed should not be rube - the two dont reconcile!

We have another mama in our office you drop out of school in form 2 but to compensate for that she has the bosses hears, eyes and .. b*lls. it is your word against her and she always carries the day. she joined in September last year and i gave last month.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mawinder
#25 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:35:43 PM
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tuvok wrote:
"One time, I was too depressed, that I thought of ganging up with 3 fellow workmates,wear black hoods and wait for the bully in the lift late evening so we could give her a beating or tie her to a tree and just go home."

I know of such an incident... Guy was roughed up in a dark toilet. I think he mellowed after that.

Get others to do it,they will be too willing and may even go with the bully's car or household possessions and deal with him once and for all, otherwise you may be in trouble with the law
xyzee
#26 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:56:27 PM
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mawinder wrote:
essyk wrote:
so lucky there weren't cctv's there.


Yes,but I was considering planting cocaine in his car and ensure I use my contacts to have him arrested,denied bail,put in the papers and eventually jailed but luckily for him he was sacked.


@Mawinder

For how long have you ben bullying your colleagues?
mawinder
#27 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:04:15 PM
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xyzee wrote:
mawinder wrote:
essyk wrote:
so lucky there weren't cctv's there.


Yes,but I was considering planting cocaine in his car and ensure I use my contacts to have him arrested,denied bail,put in the papers and eventually jailed but luckily for him he was sacked.


@Mawinder

For how long have you ben bullying your colleagues?

I was the one being bullied in meetings infront of my juniors just coz I was more qualified than the guy and my star was shining.I had to fix the guy or else I would have been sacked and by then I was weak financially with too much debt.
Angelica _ann
#28 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:05:06 PM
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@mawinder, someone needs your 'LEGAL' advice at the sme section. help a bother out!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
ChessMaster
#29 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:18:49 PM
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How do you deal with a bully without acting or ending up like one?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
AlphDoti
#30 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:25:26 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
@alphadoti, nice reply but some bosses dont give you time to explain yourself. how will you explain that you are not yet through with this and that... <some text deleted>

@Angelica _ann email summary after discussion will do.

I did not understand you on the below:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Your 'kubaff' looks sarcastic whereas you are advocating that the oppressed should not be rube - the two dont reconcile!


essyk
#31 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:35:19 PM
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xyzee wrote:
mawinder wrote:
essyk wrote:
so lucky there weren't cctv's there.


Yes,but I was considering planting cocaine in his car and ensure I use my contacts to have him arrested,denied bail,put in the papers and eventually jailed but luckily for him he was sacked.


@Mawinder

For how long have you ben bullying your colleagues?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly White sugar? Pray Mawinder! from where now.

I will soon seek your services.I know one sadistic bully.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Angelica _ann
#32 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:47:10 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
@alphadoti, nice reply but some bosses dont give you time to explain yourself. how will you explain that you are not yet through with this and that... <some text deleted>

@Angelica _ann email summary after discussion will do.

I did not understand you on the below:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Your 'kubaff' looks sarcastic whereas you are advocating that the oppressed should not be rube - the two dont reconcile!




sorry for the second one you are saying in your last sentence that dont be rude to the bully while at the same time you have used 'kubaff' whicvh for me is an abusive word. found that to be sarcastic coming from the same person (you) for managing same problem (bullying). or the kubaff is directed at 'who'. i normally act decent.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
essyk
#33 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:47:51 PM
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@ Mawinder mimi nimekuinulia mikono.
I will soon seek your services but the bark one sounds better than white sugar.

ChessMaster wrote:
How do you deal with a bully without acting or ending up like one?


You know I was bullied to the extent of never wanting to work under a manager bearing the same name as my bully.There's an offer coming my way but I dread the thought of taking it up because the manager is a big woman bearing my bully's name.I feel like they come from same family.Mind you it happened few years back not recently.

I do not understand what satifaction people derive from creating hell for others.Sadists.
They make you feel hopless,worthless,hate work environment and feel like to quiting.
I compensated by working very hard and ignoring but it became worse when she realised that I wasn't giving up.
One time after being pushed to the wall, I walked up to her desk and unleashed it all.smile
Phew what a relief that was.Tonnes of pain.
Mehn I had grown soo thin cz of that woman.
She never dared me again.
I learnt never to act Mother Theresa in office because people take advantage of you so bad.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Ngong
#34 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 7:08:49 PM
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essyk wrote:
@ Mawinder mimi nimekuinulia mikono.
I will soon seek your services but the bark one sounds better than white sugar.

ChessMaster wrote:
How do you deal with a bully without acting or ending up like one?


You know I was bullied to the extent of never wanting to work under a manager bearing the same name as my bully.There's an offer coming my way but I dread the thought of taking it up because the manager is a big woman bearing my bully's name.I feel like they come from same family.Mind you it happened few years back not recently.

I do not understand what satifaction people derive from creating hell for others.Sadists.
They make you feel hopless,worthless,hate work environment and feel like to quiting.
I compensated by working very hard and ignoring but it became worse when she realised that I wasn't giving up.
One time after being pushed to the wall, I walked up to her desk and unleashed it all.smile
Phew what a relief that was.Tonnes of pain.
Mehn I had grown soo thin cz of that woman.
She never dared me again.
I learnt never to act Mother Theresa in office because people take advantage of you so bad.



It's called to bend your back...,as someone has advised above be professional and don't smile,hio ya mawinder though sounds perfect can be folloed by a perfect investigation na mara hiyo hiyo kamiti ndani,there hakuna kwa hisani you have to bend....
ChessMaster
#35 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 7:27:20 PM
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@AlphDoti - Under good conditions your solution sounds good.It worked for a friend and she actually got promoted when things got really bad because she back herself up.But Angelica_Ann brings in a good point,not everyone works under such conditions.

@essyk - Sorry for your frustrations. Hahaha...can't believe she became worse when you did even better.Bullies perplex me too. Hope you don't pass up on the opportunity.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
essyk
#36 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 7:59:36 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
@AlphDoti - Under good conditions your solution sounds good.It worked for a friend and she actually got promoted when things got really bad because she back herself up.But Angelica_Ann brings in a good point,not everyone works under such conditions.

@essyk - Sorry for your frustrations. Hahaha...can't believe she became worse when you did even better.Bullies perplex me too. Hope you don't pass up on the opportunity.


The secret is to work diligently and do it in a way that even God can applaud.
Think about the future,where you are headed,don't adopt a 'nimefika mentality' .That is rite of passage.smile
By the way double blessings came my way after that.
Got promoted.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
ChessMaster
#37 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 8:12:15 PM
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essyk wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
@AlphDoti - Under good conditions your solution sounds good.It worked for a friend and she actually got promoted when things got really bad because she back herself up.But Angelica_Ann brings in a good point,not everyone works under such conditions.

@essyk - Sorry for your frustrations. Hahaha...can't believe she became worse when you did even better.Bullies perplex me too. Hope you don't pass up on the opportunity.


The secret is to work diligently and do it in a way that even God can applaud.
Think about the future,where you are headed,don't adopt a 'nimefika mentality' .That is rite of passage.smile
By the way double blessings came my way after that.
Got promoted.

Applause Applause Applause
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Kaka Sunguch
#38 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:36:41 AM
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mawinder wrote:
essyk wrote:
so lucky there weren't cctv's there.


Yes,but I was considering planting cocaine in his car and ensure I use my contacts to have him arrested,denied bail,put in the papers and eventually jailed but luckily for him he was sacked.

@Mawinder,Can i have like 50Kgs i set up my pain in the (censored) boss?
essyk
#39 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:41:08 AM
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lmao.
What if Mawinder is your boss.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
2012
#40 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:10:56 AM
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essyk wrote:
My bully was a big,loud mama who caused tremors everytime she walked in.She made everybody her slave and enjoyed doing it.It gave her energy and boosted her ego when she saw us shake like leaves.




People only treat you the way you teach them or allow them to treat you.

Bullies are insecure people and the only way is to put others down. You'll find that she's bullied at home by her husband or was put down by her father. The secret is not to give them room or space to control you. They get angry and will move to someone else after all, all the worst they can do is get you fired which is better than losing your dignity.

BBI will solve it
:)
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