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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Yeah thats true that they are world's apart, but the market is irrational. I think with Steve Jobs gone, alot of Apple holders are not as confident as they used to be, all it takes for the herd to sell off is a bad earnings report, people will forget all the fundamental stuff. There is talk that since Samsung is proving a big challenge to iPhone, and the fact that Apple is lowering prices on its products to attract buyers, that this is the beginning of the end for them. People are always looking for the next train to board, they can be jittery when a good stock starts sliding. And FB is a necessary need, well maybe more of an addiction, they should shut it down for 24 hours and you'll see how many people will lose their minds. By the way look at their books, they are also holding a good chunk of money, virtually no debt, yet they are still at the growth stage. I think you'd agree with me that Apple has plateaud. Anyways I will hold and see what happens, looking forward to the next earnings, hopefully it will beat expectations by far.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/16/2011 Posts: 196 Location: united states of africa
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Nabwire wrote:Yeah thats true that they are world's apart, but the market is irrational. I think with Steve Jobs gone, alot of Apple holders are not as confident as they used to be, all it takes for the herd to sell off is a bad earnings report, people will forget all the fundamental stuff. There is talk that since Samsung is proving a big challenge to iPhone, and the fact that Apple is lowering prices on its products to attract buyers, that this is the beginning of the end for them. People are always looking for the next train to board, they can be jittery when a good stock starts sliding. And FB is a necessary need, well maybe more of an addiction, they should shut it down for 24 hours and you'll see how many people will lose their minds. By the way look at their books, they are also holding a good chunk of money, virtually no debt, yet they are still at the growth stage. I think you'd agree with me that Apple has plateaud. Anyways I will hold and see what happens, looking forward to the next earnings, hopefully it will beat expectations by far. Quick question for you. Has Chevron, Exxon Mobil, IBM etc etc plateaued?? Energy.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/16/2011 Posts: 196 Location: united states of africa
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hisah wrote:Nabwire wrote:Hisah this is a game, you just have to be on the winning side. If the big boys move out of Apple ( they have already started) its my prayer that they will swarm into FB...Amen! Look at FB's fundies then do the same for AAPL. The two are a class apart. Apple went to the pit and came back from the cliff to $700/share and a stockload of cashflow that if it wanted it can lend to US treasury. Apple makes things that FB users buy & use everyday. If you shutdown FB today what would be the economical impact vs Apple inc shutdown? Unless FB can become a necessary need, it's replaceable and the likelihood of other FBs popping is pretty high.
I just don't see how i'd load up a sizable bet on FB if I had to choose between the two.
Look at it without emotional attachment. A 22-year-old social networking pioneer and Internet privacy advocate who dared to challenge Facebook and Google is dead. Ilya Zhitomirskiy died Saturday after San Francisco police were summoned for a reported suicide, police spokesman Officer Albie Esparza said. Mr Zhitomirskiy was one of the founders Diaspora*, a new social networking service meant to give users more control of their information online, and sought to lure people away from bigger sites like Facebook, Google and Twitter. That my friend is the reason why FB is a buy. Oh, and one more thing, he never committed suicide.http://www.dailymail.co....itomirskiy-dies-22.html
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Tired of this FB discussion. Goodluck to FB investors. Will remain a bear in this camp until I see value. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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If the markets roll over as I expect them to with todays ugly and emphatic reversal many stocks will take it in the chin. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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FACEBOOK IS OVERVALUED!! 2012 produced rubbish earnings and after the garbage that will be produced in 2013 maybe the market will see this company for what it really is! Some people might be living on food stamps when Facebook is finished with them! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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guru267 wrote:FACEBOOK IS OVERVALUED!!
2012 produced rubbish earnings and after the garbage that will be produced in 2013 maybe the market will see this company for what it really is!
Some people might be living on food stamps when Facebook is finished with them!
This is why I call this one a madwoman  I really pity you. A company with $1 billion in cash flows from operating activities, $2 billion in cash and cash equivalents, gross profit that has more than doubled since 2010, is according to you "rubbish earnings" and it gets better, you go ahead and predict garbage in 2013. Madwoman is what you are, keep shouting while we make money  Sorry, this club is not for wanjikus like you, najua uko na mauchungu, jipe shughli!! You may want to add knee pads on coz I know you pray everynight for FB to fall, ata with a 2000 PE your predictions still havent come to fruition A bitter and deranged woman moves not the stock market, maybe the mbuta one
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/6/2010 Posts: 97 Location: nairobi, kenya
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Nabwire wrote:guru267 wrote:FACEBOOK IS OVERVALUED!!
2012 produced rubbish earnings and after the garbage that will be produced in 2013 maybe the market will see this company for what it really is!
Some people might be living on food stamps when Facebook is finished with them!
This is why I call this one a madwoman I really pity you. A company with $1 billion in cash flows from operating activities, $2 billion in cash and cash equivalents, gross profit that has more than doubled since 2010, is according to you "rubbish earnings" and it gets better, you go ahead and predict garbage in 2013. Madwoman is what you are, keep shouting while we make money Sorry, this club is not for wanjikus like you, najua uko na mauchungu, jipe shughli!! You may want to add knee pads on coz I know you pray everynight for FB to fall, ata with a 2000 PE your predictions still havent come to fruition A bitter and deranged woman moves not the stock market, maybe the mbuta one I don't mean any offence but you don't have to be this rude to air your opinion. If you don't agree with someones opinion than ignore it and continue doing what you do. Before you can be be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nabwire wrote:Madwoman is what you are, keep shouting while we make money Just curious as to what money you are making??  Didn't you buy @ IPO for $38?? Have you ever received a dividend/bonus?? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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