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techboy
#421 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 4:28:32 PM
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mauryc wrote:
Is it too late to jump into this bus?


POLE sana ! its too late !
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obiero
#422 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 6:19:39 PM
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techboy wrote:
mauryc wrote:
Is it too late to jump into this bus?


POLE sana ! its too late !

@techboy. no. its late, but not too late. KES27 may be tested upon peaceful election. however, it is high beta meaning it could go to as low as KES13 if peace ceases

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#423 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 7:10:36 PM
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obiero wrote:
techboy wrote:
mauryc wrote:
Is it too late to jump into this bus?


POLE sana ! its too late !

@techboy. no. its late, but not too late. KES27 may be tested upon peaceful election. however, it is high beta meaning it could go to as low as KES13 if peace ceases


There'll be peace and i dont expect it to go down anytime soon everything staying normal
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techboy
#424 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 11:04:43 PM
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well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !
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#425 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:12:22 AM
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techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


What does the TA say?
Life is short. Live passionately.
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#426 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:51:33 AM
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techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


HF had a terrible 2012.. There will be nothing good in those results!
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#427 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:21:39 AM
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guru267 wrote:
techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


HF had a terrible 2012.. There will be nothing good in those results!


Not a terrible 2012,a good 2012. 2011 was a very good year. so coming from that base a single digit growth or slightly negative will be. VERY GOOD performance. I think they will surprise
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#428 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:22:42 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
guru267 wrote:
techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


HF had a terrible 2012.. There will be nothing good in those results!


Not a terrible 2012,a good 2012. 2011 was a very good year. so coming from that base a single digit growth or slightly negative will be. VERY GOOD performance. I think they will surprise


Growth will come in from -24% - 0%... Not good because we might have a cut in DPS!
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#429 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:39:41 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
guru267 wrote:
techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


HF had a terrible 2012.. There will be nothing good in those results!


Not a terrible 2012,a good 2012. 2011 was a very good year. so coming from that base a single digit growth or slightly negative will be. VERY GOOD performance. I think they will surprise


Growth will come in from -24% - 0%... Not good because we might have a cut in DPS!

There will be a circa 5% growth in PBT with dividend coming in at .80 cents hence total of KES 1.50 for the year. This should be the highest dividend yield amongst all financial institutions

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#430 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:45:44 PM
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Wat i like with hfck is declaring an interim dividend shortly after paying the final one.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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#431 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 10:41:42 AM
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obiero wrote:
With a dividend yield of over 8% @ KES 1.20. Increased demand for quality housing by a rising middle class. And finally, the launch of their current account as a source of cheap deposits in addition to their successful bond issue.. This is the only stock worth looking at right now in terms of upside potential


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause ..in light of current price !
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#432 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 10:58:57 AM
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techboy wrote:
obiero wrote:
With a dividend yield of over 8% @ KES 1.20. Increased demand for quality housing by a rising middle class. And finally, the launch of their current account as a source of cheap deposits in addition to their successful bond issue.. This is the only stock worth looking at right now in terms of upside potential


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause ..in light of current price !


God bless Wazua... am up 40% since late Aug. Only exiting because I need the money, but intending to come back with a bang.
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#433 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 11:08:34 AM
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@lietmach misquoted "God bless Wazua... am up 40% since late Aug. Only exiting because I need the money, but intending to come back with a bhang."
Laughing out loudly
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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MoneyMonger
#434 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:25:05 AM
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I think this strategy will boost HF earning in the coming years. At least the share holders can have relief that the money raised in bonds are being put in the right place.

http://www.businessdaily...8/-/agtrk1z/-/index.html
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#435 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:52:49 AM
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MoneyMonger wrote:
I think this strategy will boost HF earning in the coming years. At least the share holders can have relief that the money raised in bonds are being put in the right place.

http://www.businessdailyafrica....8/-/agtrk1z/-/index.html


Such news affirm my confidence in this company. Any investors out there. Wanna make an almost guaranteed ( everything constant) 80% plus profit end of 2014? buy this share.
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techboy
#436 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:33:27 AM
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guru267 wrote:
techboy wrote:
well my thinking is that the good results have already been factored in so buying now you are just chasing price ! and thats a very dangerous thing to do !


HF had a terrible 2012.. There will be nothing good in those results!


i keep wondering who do you think you are that you go against the market trend .the stock stock rallied over 30% for no apparent reason ????? i really do and until you answer that please deny yourself the embarrassment and whip out a chart and trade with the market ...
those results FY'12. were more than i expected !
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aemathenge
#437 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:50:24 AM
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Brace yourself. This could be fun.
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Pick n Pay
#438 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:31:27 PM
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The diamond is back in the dirt. Hope you made money
Greed is fear.
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obiero
#439 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:55:18 PM
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@all. last chance to get on the bus. we are changing a punctured tyre and soon we shall back on the road, speeding towards profits

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#440 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:59:01 PM
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obiero wrote:
@all. last chance to get on the bus. we are changing a punctured tyre and soon we shall back on the road, speeding towards profits


I like this share.There is a bid for 200k at 14.Hoping it goes down just a bit more before I get in again.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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