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'Brave new world' - conversation on postmodern cosmology.
ChessMaster
#101 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:32:33 AM
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I give up,if you cant understand what Man God is by now,its ok with me.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Shotgun
#102 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:10:44 AM
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I know a dude who breathes this "God and science" stuff 24/7. Hope none of you @Chessmaster, @Wakanyugi and @tycho is called Lawrence.
ChessMaster
#103 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:14:40 AM
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Not me.Very few people know me.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
digitek1
#104 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:19:26 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
I give up,if you cant understand what Man God is by now,its ok with me.

If its means Godlike man then i do. if it means man=God then truce. But will pray for yousmile
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
tycho
#105 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:19:45 PM
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@Digitek, How can you justify a statement like, 'Perceptions are illusory?'

1. If you are saying ALL perceptions are illusory, then even this conversation is illusory. Is it?

What I am positing is, SOME perceptions are illusory.

That is why we agree that beyond the cup is the act of creation, and that there are distinctions of Trinity in God.

But if I may ask, how would you communicate that fact to me, while after all, ALL perceptions are illusory?

Hahaha! What have I just done? How do you know?

Man God has faith in perception, and, has the ability to tell Truth from NOT TRUTH, and, HE can communicate these FACTS to others.

Your belief to the contrary, is most surprising. How can faith be groundless? How can Life be groundless?

I am asserting that humanity has the ability to access, order, and use facts; and even more, he can communicate these facts, to others.

And He can do it because he has real tools that help him to distinguish facts from illusions.

These tools and methods also form part of his spirituality.
tycho
#106 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:25:28 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
I give up,if you cant understand what Man God is by now,its ok with me.

If its means Godlike man then i do. if it means man=God then truce. But will pray for yousmile


You must remember, that it this matter that led to Socrates' death.

And as I am Spartan, my sword is out. Only surrender will help here.

tycho
#107 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:27:17 PM
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Shotgun wrote:
I know a dude who breathes this "God and science" stuff 24/7. Hope none of you @Chessmaster, @Wakanyugi and @tycho is called Lawrence.


Why do you hope?
tycho
#108 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:31:50 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
We all agree.The universe is everything,all inclusive.Then what lies beyond is nothing.


We can now begin to construct ideal algorithms for Scientific and Religious work.

Answers to questions posed can then be deduced from these algorithms.


What questions do you want us to ponder on?


Knowledge.
ChessMaster
#109 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:54:34 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
We all agree.The universe is everything,all inclusive.Then what lies beyond is nothing.


We can now begin to construct ideal algorithms for Scientific and Religious work.

Answers to questions posed can then be deduced from these algorithms.


What questions do you want us to ponder on?


Knowledge.


Where do you see the limits of knowledge?

@digitek1 - Thank you.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#110 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:25:09 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
We all agree.The universe is everything,all inclusive.Then what lies beyond is nothing.


We can now begin to construct ideal algorithms for Scientific and Religious work.

Answers to questions posed can then be deduced from these algorithms.


What questions do you want us to ponder on?


Knowledge.


Where do you see the limits of knowledge?

@digitek1 - Thank you.


Knowledge is limited to our powers to perceive, and our powers to form ideas and concepts, and to test them to ascertain facts. And finally knowledge is limited by how we communicate.
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