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New CBK rule on cheques
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#11 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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I apprciate and blv tis a good rule to be embrcd mo 4 those ever cmpng of bng cond in big deals bung lnd and oter assets its a safety prec

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Silk
#12 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:39:00 AM
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Just familiarize yourself with the whole thing and it will be easier for you. Don't confuse Eft's with Rgts. Efts can last for 2 to more days. Cheques less than 1m will take the normal 4 or so days to clear. Cheques above 1m will take 21 days to clear.

What is required now is for the banks to embrace technology and facilitate affordable internet banking with all their clients,including individuals customers. Visiting bank halls is no longer a joy to most of us.

My only fear is,our banks will use this opportunity to fleece their customers just like they have done soo many times. KCB is known for this. Barclays,Cfc,Stanchart,Citibank and i think Equity already got internet banking in place and all you need is to get set up.

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MADE
#13 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 9:05:00 AM
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@kbeef and Intelligensia......Quite educative stuff.

@Silk....after reading the above,ya piece is abit confusing. That chqs will still take 4 days to clear? So what real time are we talking of .....

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Intelligentsia
#14 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 9:49:00 AM
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@MADE

The cap only affects chqs ABOVE 1M,so chqs below this 999,999=95 will go through the normal clearing process i.e f3 working days before they clear.

But really,you can use RTGS for any amount . If they remove the current KShs 1m-cap and say all payments have to be vide RTGS,then all payments will be realtime.


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kenyanbeef
#15 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 11:44:00 AM
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@Jangwa,that was for illustrative purposes and most definitely not the Kenyan scenario.. Labda some day when we'll be a 24hr economy.
FundamentAli
#16 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 12:12:00 PM
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There is still an issue. If you are involved in a transaction and you have to give your lawyers say Shs. 20 million so that he can give a professional undertaking to a third party and say that you are not keen on depositing money in your lawyers account,how would one go about it? Some transactions are too big for multiple cheques.




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Intelligentsia
#17 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 1:08:00 PM
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@FundamentAli

dude,you need to shift kabisaa from the idea of multiple cheques.

There is no amount too large for RTGS! Heck,Banks use it to settle business going to hundreds of millions of KShs. & even billions amongst themselves/ and high-networth clients (like the ones paid PET ALLOWANCES in hundreds of thousands of KShs,but that's a story for another day).

So 20m Kenya money is merely pocket change for the system.

For your kind of transaction of say kshs 20m where u have 20m cash ( umeiba wapi hii yote,mulika mwi... ),one option is u can place the cash on fixed deposit at good rates and get a cash-collateralised bank guarantee of same amount which you can give then your lawyer. In this way the cash asset also sweats to your advantage.But note the Bank will not refund your guarantee until either you return its guarantee or the beneficiary confirms in writing it is no longer needed. Even if you invest same amt in t-bills,any bank should be able to give you a bank guarantee of same amt against the lien created on the deposit by CBK.

For such colossal amounts however,one would have to very clear about the amount and validity of professional indemnity of the lawyers.






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FundamentAli
#18 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 1:36:00 PM
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@Intellegentia

I asked the bank if they had something of the kind you have mentioned below and the guys were very blank. That is why am syaing these guys should be educated on this new system. Am not against it at all.


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mukiha
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:12:00 AM
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@FundamentAli;

Yours is a case of bank staff who do not understand banking...nothing to do with RTGS...

And,hey,this is a common disease in corporate Kenya. There are just too many people working in businesses that they do not understand. This is one of the greatest factors responsible for bad service in Kenyan companies

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:53:00 PM
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Just google kepss and you will understand the system much better.


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