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mungiki- how many must die
KIMANDERU
#51 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:29:00 PM
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I stand to be corrected,Mungiki are in the cabinet,police force and very sentive arms of the goverment.There is no way and i repeat noway they can continue the way they are doing without knowledge of the security agents no way.Such a thing could not happen in Baringo during the time of Moi.Nairibi traffic police 100% mungiki try matt business and you will know what am taking about.


TOMORROW WILL BE BETTER
kenn
#52 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:51:00 PM
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I do believe that mungiki started humbly registering their disatisfaction our their leaders because of the social and economic issues then but they realized that our leaders are deaf and dumb towards the poor. Then they saw a loophole in our governing structure in form of lucrative matatu industry and they exploited it to the point where denying them revenue,they had to spread terror visciously to protect they source of revenue ! Do you see a familiar trend in drug war in mexico ? I always ask myself why the stakes of forming the government in kenya is a matter of life and death ! Is it because all our billionaires once served in the government or were closely linked the mafioso and the powerful cartels ? I do believe that for the mighty in the government to respond to the cries of the poor,mungiki,inclusive,we as the wananchi have force the wenye inchi to act either by kidnapping them,holding them at ransom,suicide bomb them or execute them till the relent ! otherwise,they will never experience what majority of us face each and everyday ! Carjacking,ngetas,insecurity,police harassment,you name it !
Obi 1 Kanobi
#53 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:34:00 PM
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Okay guyz,lets be clear here.

25 people are killed in the presidents own backyard and so far the gava is carrying out investigations.

The 25 were systematically fished from their own homes and hacked so that they can pay an illegal tax to thieves and we have a gava.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
KIMANDERU
#54 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:12:00 PM
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Ati Saitoti will still be in the cabinet tomoroow big joke.This is not a Kikukyu issue it a national issue.Kibaki should act or he should leave the field to someone able to govern period.

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VituVingiSana
#55 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:45:00 PM
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Why are they killing innocent farmers?
And I was told that uhuru was supported by mungiki in 2002...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Jen
#56 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:12:00 PM
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@ Charley

HERE! HERE!
Charley
#57 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:35:00 AM
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@Tusker baridi

I am a great admirer of Maina Kiai in more ways than one and he represents the sort of paradigm shift I was talking about in my contribution below. However,rather than obscure all other contributions with a copy paste,please give your personal contribution to this thread. Is this Maina Kiais and Muities contribution to this thread? People in this forum are are able to get articles as and when we require; as well as articulate our ouwn views - I thought that is why we engage in discussions! Please read my contribution (and that of others) and have us interact,share and contribute to this ailing Nation. Many here are thinkers like the rest of them. Sorry to sound you off but you have offended my intelligence.
nanfor
#58 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:24:00 AM
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Muite and Kiai got it wrong by being too nice.

This is not a Kikuyu issue. It is a homeguard issue.

Kenya's leaders are all and I mean ALL. Including Muite and Kiai from the homeguard group of Kenyans. This group is the one that was taken to Alliance Boys to join the Carey Francis cult. Please note that all students of Carey Francis ended up with plum gov't jobs and are all corrupt to the core. I mean ALL. They are the who's who and Kenyans,regardless of tribe are now positioning themselves to bring them back.

I am sorry Mr.Tusker and other Kikuyu demagogues. You have failed in your analysis of the problem big time by declaring that ALL the Kikuyu are evil.

Kenyatta was selected by homeguards in KANU even though he had not done much for the struggle. Kenyatta then rewarded and employed homeguards especially those from Alliance boys training camp in the names of Koinange,Odinga,Moi etc etc.

This mungiki phenomenon is a result of falling for the divide and rule tactics employed by the homeguards and they will appear in other regions of the country. They have already started in Rift Valley (The warriors),Kibera (the railway haters) etc. Killing them will not solve the problem but consolidate the power of the homeguards in this country. Do not celebrate the Kikuyu peasant being destroyed since he does not support ODM. As ODM is also a club of homeguard children. Most bred and developed by Tom Mboya (CIA students) and Odinga the homeguards in Luo land.

Arap Samoei's children are broke but the homeguard Moi's children are doing just fine. Dedan Kimathi's children are broke,but home guard Koinange's children are just fine. Achieng Aneko's children are broke,but Odinga's children are just fine.

Be very careful as you deal with this social issue. Read your history of Kenya's independence and realise that the homeguards are busy protecting their turf as you guys wallow in hatred of the Kikuyu and their offsprings. It is soon going to manifest itself in your small bubble.
Tusker Baridi
#59 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:32:00 AM
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@Charles

My opinion on this issue is a well documented at this forum and has been consistent for as long as I've been here. However,whenever I say the blunt truth,my fellow SKerians from the slopes are quick to dismiss me as a Kikuyu hater and all sorts of unfounded allegations.

So I thought that maybe since Kiai and Muite are from the slopes and they're articulating the same ideas I've been talking about for years,maybe these SKerians will finally smell the coffee as you say and will not have the excuse of accusing the author of simply harboring anti Kikuyu sentiments.

I am not shy to debate anyone on anything,but sometimes one has to realize one's limitations and try a different aproach. It really saddens me when I see our fellows from the slopes reduced to blind tribal cheerleaders. I mean,back during the Moi error,Kyuks were deriding Kaleos for these very same blind bootlicking of the Moi mafia,enter Kifaki mafia and suddenly they see no evil,hear no evil and say no evil while the country is being plundered and raped by their so called leaders.
KIMANDERU
#60 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:01:00 AM
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Since indepence look at this list

Kibaki,Michuki,Karume,Kenyatta by extension Uhuru,Muhoho,Githunguri if these bastereds and their children could be shown the door then as a community you will start seeing the light.


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