alma wrote:...<text deleted>...Your reasonableness is not mine. Your boundaries are not mine. What you think is important may mean absolutely nothing to someone else...
...Who is going to carry the measuring tape? You or Alphadoti?
I'll start by telling you an hadith, which says:
Quote:"A parent can give a child no greater gift than beautiful manners."
You see in lifeSomeone must have "Haya", which in this discussion stands for modesty, self-respect, shame, honour, humility, shyness etc.
In nature it is that feeling of "bad" and "uneasy" that comes with embarrassment.
This is comes out when person fears of being exposed or show disapproved for some unworthy or indecent behaviour.
So in a society where people believe in somethingAnd if for some reason that person is not able to keep up with commitment then they will feel extremely uncomfortable and ashamed about this.
The reason is that he will have broken some code of conduct (for those who are religious, displeased God by breaking a command).
UnfortunatelyWhat you see is genuine believers practising the commandments and you see people claiming the commandments and practising something else.
If we don't have some form of "haya" in us then it's obvius we do not believe in anything.
I can go on and on to proof to youThat "shyness" isn't something we want our youngs girls to exhibit so that they can be save (
I'm sure you want your daughter to dress modesty).
It is not about women alone, but also good men should have, because this is an indication that they fear committing something bad if they follow their natural instinct.
This "shyness" is inbornLook at young kids about 8 or 9 of age.
They have feeling of shyness and humbleness naturally happening.
They feel they need to cover their bodies from their mothers or siblings.
But you know what?Ignorant people would tell such children "
what are you hidding, what don't we know?"
These are the thinking Western culture want to instill in people's minds
So people who are affected by western culture say this to their children (pure, "untainted").
If as responsible parentswe take these instincts of feeling of shame and raise it responsibly, it will develop to a conscious responsible people who guide their lifes to doing "good" (you know what I mean, generally agreed conduct).
Some of you will frown at shyness and humblenessSaying this is a weakness or lack of confidence.
But in real these are qualities of dignified, upright person, who's aware of their actions and their responsibilities in life.
Luckily in the house of IslamHaya is responsible for making one to avoid something distasteful or offensive.
It keeps that person from neglect of the other person's due rights (Ok I know you will say which rights, but I'll simple say a society where there's no code of conduct, then there is no right)