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I&M Bank to List at NSE via City Trust.
ChessMaster
#61 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:52:09 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Shareholder approval and co operation is key for the conclusion of this deal!

www.businessdailyafrica....532/-/g3r85/-/index.html

Game Theory
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
mwekez@ji
#62 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:23:49 PM
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Bw @VituVingiSana wajua Vitu Vingi Sana #Wazua_ThumbsUp for your sharing
mwekez@ji
#63 Posted : Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:27:16 PM
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City Trust fair value stands at KES.500-525 Drool
VituVingiSana
#64 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:31:38 AM
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Up, Up and Away

BIDS 1,800
Quantity Price Splits Time
500 465.00 1 10:30:03
1,000 420.00 1 10:30:03
300 410.00 1 10:30:03
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ASKS 1,700
Quantity Price Splits Time
1,000 475.00 1 10:30:03
700 499.00 1 10:30:03
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
TRADES
Quantity Price Time
2,500 465.00 10:28:43
700 465.00 10:16:58
1,000 465.00 10:14:20
100 464.00 10:11:39
100 464.00 09:59:42
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mukiha
#65 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:41:34 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Up, Up and Away

BIDS 1,800
Quantity Price Splits Time
500 465.00 1 10:30:03
1,000 420.00 1 10:30:03
300 410.00 1 10:30:03
- - - -
- - - -
ASKS 1,700
Quantity Price Splits Time
1,000 475.00 1 10:30:03
700 499.00 1 10:30:03
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
TRADES
Quantity Price Time
2,500 465.00 10:28:43
700 465.00 10:16:58
1,000 465.00 10:14:20
100 464.00 10:11:39
100 464.00 09:59:42


No point chasing this one. Wait till the deal is done and all the excitement has waned. It remains a good investment, but timing will be essential, just like happened to SCOM - those chasing it now remind me of those chasing it immediately after IPO
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Aguytrying
#66 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:58:37 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
City Trust fair value stands at KES.500-525 Drool


How did u arrive at this and what do u mean by fair value.
I ask because at this price the new company will be trading at a p/b of over 2.5
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#67 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:09:04 AM
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More trades in one month than entire 2012! Or so I think.

BIDS 1,300
Quantity Price Splits Time
1,000 420.00 1 11:07:34
300 410.00 1 11:07:34
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ASKS 1,700
Quantity Price Splits Time
1,000 475.00 1 11:07:34
700 499.00 1 11:07:34
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
TRADES
Quantity Price Time
2,000 465.00 11:07:33
2,000 465.00 11:07:02
3,000 465.00 11:07:02
3,000 465.00 11:07:02
500 465.00 10:32:56
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#68 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:11:15 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
City Trust fair value stands at KES.500-525 Drool

How did u arrive at this and what do u mean by fair value.
I ask because at this price the new company will be trading at a p/b of over 2.5
Dyer & Blair valued it as such in the Circular.
I have a feeling there will be Bond Revaluations [I&M marked-to-market some of their Bonds] which will boost the NAV. In readiness for listing, I&M may also revalue their properties which adds to the NAV.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#69 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:19:33 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
City Trust fair value stands at KES.500-525 Drool

How did u arrive at this and what do u mean by fair value.
I ask because at this price the new company will be trading at a p/b of over 2.5
Dyer & Blair valued it as such in the Circular.
I have a feeling there will be Bond Revaluations [I&M marked-to-market some of their Bonds] which will boost the NAV. In readiness for listing, I&M may also revalue their properties which adds to the NAV.


So till then we cant say that what nav is exactly. Point noted though
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mwekez@ji
#70 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:31:27 AM
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@Aguy, like @VVS has said. ..... also put into consideration that I&M is a growth stock with huge potential. Valuations could be adjusted upwards as info ticks in
VituVingiSana
#71 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:03:55 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
City Trust fair value stands at KES.500-525 Drool

How did u arrive at this and what do u mean by fair value.
I ask because at this price the new company will be trading at a p/b of over 2.5
Dyer & Blair valued it as such in the Circular.
I have a feeling there will be Bond Revaluations [I&M marked-to-market some of their Bonds] which will boost the NAV. In readiness for listing, I&M may also revalue their properties which adds to the NAV.


So till then we cant say that what nav is exactly. Point noted though
Everything except death & taxes is speculative d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#72 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:30:35 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
@Aguy, like @VVS has said. ..... also put into consideration that I&M is a growth stock with huge potential. Valuations could be adjusted upwards as info ticks in


True. But as of now we work with what we have which is a p/b of more than 2. This may come lower accordings to the bonds and real estate.
Caution on attaching a premium to a stock because of growth and potential. Because the growth expected if it occurs it is what will justify todays price. Ifand if the growth potential is the same in that future thats what will guarantee the price today, so its very risky to buy an over valued stock no matter how high the prospects. I wish i bought this at 200-300.
Now is to wish those on board God speed.
@vvs. Pliz never leave us behind again, regards proteges. Lol
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#73 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:26:36 PM
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P.S. Make YOUR own decision. Don't look to someone else to do so... No easy answers.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#74 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:25:15 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
P.S. Make YOUR own decision. Don't look to someone else to do so... No easy answers.


Sawa tu uncle
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
xtina
#75 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:34:18 PM
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Snapped few shares when it was 90, me is a happy, happy girl smile
techboy
#76 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:36:54 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
P.S. Make YOUR own decision. Don't look to someone else to do so... No easy answers.


exonerating yourself from the wrong decisions you make . LOL
VituVingiSana
#77 Posted : Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:34:44 PM
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techboy wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
P.S. Make YOUR own decision. Don't look to someone else to do so... No easy answers.

exonerating yourself from the wrong decisions you make . LOL
Yes, I made the wrong decision/s in buying City Trust. I wish I had made more mistakes of this sort.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwekez@ji
#78 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:19:23 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
techboy wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
P.S. Make YOUR own decision. Don't look to someone else to do so... No easy answers.

exonerating yourself from the wrong decisions you make . LOL
Yes, I made the wrong decision/s in buying City Trust. I wish I had made more mistakes of this sort.


Scores: Vituvingisana - 10 ; techboy - Nil
VituVingiSana
#79 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:20:08 AM
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5:1 split EGM today. Who is going?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#80 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:21:27 AM
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xtina wrote:
Snapped few shares when it was 90, me is a happy, happy girl smile
And now 90 AFTER the 5:1 split
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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