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tycho
#31 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:33:49 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Can you really alter consciousness without forgetting the past? People change but some of who they are still remains


The past is an information sequence. Therefore it can be altered. Some sequences can be made inactive, or other sequences can be created to counter the old ones.

For example, evolution.
ChessMaster
#32 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:38:51 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Can you really alter consciousness without forgetting the past? People change but some of who they are still remains


The past is an information sequence. Therefore it can be altered. Some sequences can be made inactive, or other sequences can be created to counter the old ones.

For example, evolution.


Good point. Hadn't thought of it in that sense. Problem now is,which comes first consciousness or personality?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#33 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:46:48 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
Can you really alter consciousness without forgetting the past? People change but some of who they are still remains


The past is an information sequence. Therefore it can be altered. Some sequences can be made inactive, or other sequences can be created to counter the old ones.

For example, evolution.


Good point. Hadn't thought of it in that sense. Problem now is,which comes first consciousness or personality?


Personality is consciousness in action. Or more specifically, consciousness under observation.
ChessMaster
#34 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:50:33 PM
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But no matter how much one pursues consciousness you can't ride yourself of personality.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#35 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 5:56:23 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
But no matter how much one pursues consciousness you can't ride yourself of personality.


The pursuit, is the personality. The being.

Personality is thus also dynamic. It changes. Death is its cessation.
ChessMaster
#36 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 6:03:19 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
But no matter how much one pursues consciousness you can't ride yourself of personality.


The pursuit, is the personality. The being.

Personality is thus also dynamic. It changes. Death is its cessation.

I think the being/personality is an expression of consciousness. Yes it can be dynamic but holds to certain boundaries
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#37 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 6:08:32 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
But no matter how much one pursues consciousness you can't ride yourself of personality.


The pursuit, is the personality. The being.

Personality is thus also dynamic. It changes. Death is its cessation.

I think the being/personality is an expression of consciousness. Yes it can be dynamic but holds to certain boundaries


Yes. The boundaries are laws and structures. And even these boundaries are ever shifting.
essyk
#38 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 7:50:23 PM
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Gosh what are you guys discussing?

Tycho chunga,you will become a psycho.
Is this the way you speak to normal people out there? Do they understand you?

I watched this long bearded scientist on Discovery carrying out a weird research.
According to him,humans can forever remain young.
The answer to that rests in some unique gene to be found among the corpses of people who died ages ago.

So he's ever visiting graveyards digging and collecting microbes.

Would you like to remain young forever? As in become a forever living product?Laughing out loudly
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
ChessMaster
#39 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 7:52:44 PM
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essyk wrote:
Gosh what are you guys discussing?

Tycho chunga,you will become a psycho.
Is this the way you speak to normal people out there? Do they understand you?

I watched this long bearded scientist on Discovery carrying out a weird research.
According to him,humans can forever remain young.
The answer to that rests in some unique gene to be found among the corpses of people who died ages ago.

So he's ever visiting graveyards digging and collecting microbes.

Would you like to remain young forever? As in become a forever living product?Laughing out loudly

Culture and context
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#40 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 9:13:43 PM
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Essyk, one can be forever young.

But that level of being . . .
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