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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 68
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To car gurus, My Subaru had a problem with the engine block and finally the engine seized. I have come across divergent views from mechanics, one mechanic wants me to just get an engine block and he'll do the repairs since he says not all components are bad in the seized engine. The other mech has advised me to just get a new complete engine and fit it to the car. In comparison the block is cheaper by around 30-40k but am thinking there could be hidden costs. Am confused btn the two choices, saidieni... to be or not to be remains the question
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2011 Posts: 629 Location: Nai
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Scar wrote:To car gurus,
My Subaru had a problem with the engine block and finally the engine seized. I have come across divergent views from mechanics, one mechanic wants me to just get an engine block and he'll do the repairs since he says not all components are bad in the seized engine. The other mech has advised me to just get a new complete engine and fit it to the car. In comparison the block is cheaper by around 30-40k but am thinking there could be hidden costs.
Am confused btn the two choices,
saidieni... Get a complete engine. My friend changed his for 110k (forester). While at it make sure you understand why the engine seized so that you do not have to go through a similar experience. In his case some dove parts were found inside the engine. There is mystery as to how they entered there.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/11/2007 Posts: 1,680 Location: nairobi
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Weka complete ...look at it as a way of saving time and peace of mind trying to save that 40k.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 68
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mlefu wrote:Weka complete ...look at it as a way of saving time and peace of mind trying to save that 40k. thats true, thanks to be or not to be remains the question
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 68
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Get a complete engine. My friend changed his for 110k (forester). While at it make sure you understand why the engine seized so that you do not have to go through a similar experience. In his case some dove parts were found inside the engine. There is mystery as to how they entered there. [/quote] dove? enyewe thats weird, a complete engine it is. Thanks to be or not to be remains the question
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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New engine. Dont try and save coins here bro, utalilia kwa choo. Turbo charged or naturally aspirated?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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accelriskconsult wrote:Scar wrote:To car gurus,
My Subaru had a problem with the engine block and finally the engine seized. I have come across divergent views from mechanics, one mechanic wants me to just get an engine block and he'll do the repairs since he says not all components are bad in the seized engine. The other mech has advised me to just get a new complete engine and fit it to the car. In comparison the block is cheaper by around 30-40k but am thinking there could be hidden costs.
Am confused btn the two choices,
saidieni... Get a complete engine. My friend changed his for 110k (forester). While at it make sure you understand why the engine seized so that you do not have to go through a similar experience. In his case some dove parts were found inside the engine. There is mystery as to how they entered there. Only two things can make the engine seize; lack of cooling water and lack of lubricating oil; nothing more nothing less! Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/28/2009 Posts: 353 Location: Cloud
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seconded. subrus like a clean job. i implore and cajole you to fit a complete engine, na usiende pale kwa waarabu with shifty eyes near Mater for deals-eti an engine going for 100k wakuuzie 70k but ETR isome 30k. When its tyme for s*t to fly low, utaregret. Try the shops at Dar salam rd or one called Japan something. Na upewe written guarantee ya 30 days while at it. Bad things are know to happen to people who dont listen to gurus like !impunity! "For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/28/2009 Posts: 353 Location: Cloud
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@accelriskconsult: That's a lie right there: who's foolin who? Ati dove parts? any engine will be destroyed by lack of lubrication [oil/water] , or sabotage, or failing crucial parts like timing belts, seized bearings etc. mambo ya doves to be left to Kalumanzira, the mganga at Githurai 44. "For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:accelriskconsult wrote:Scar wrote:To car gurus,
My Subaru had a problem with the engine block and finally the engine seized. I have come across divergent views from mechanics, one mechanic wants me to just get an engine block and he'll do the repairs since he says not all components are bad in the seized engine. The other mech has advised me to just get a new complete engine and fit it to the car. In comparison the block is cheaper by around 30-40k but am thinking there could be hidden costs.
Am confused btn the two choices,
saidieni... Get a complete engine. My friend changed his for 110k (forester). While at it make sure you understand why the engine seized so that you do not have to go through a similar experience. In his case some dove parts were found inside the engine. There is mystery as to how they entered there. Only two things can make the engine seize; lack of cooling water and lack of lubricating oil; nothing more nothing less! Its a bit more complicated than that though basically it still comes down to cooling ... you may have proper levels of oil and water but after a long, hard drive, the engine should be left running to dissipate the heat, esp turbo ones. Most newbies dont know this, after the turbo charged unit rolls off the ship, they gun the car at max speed for 500km to Nairobi, switch it off and enter the pub to brag. A forgiving engine lets you do this a few times before the turbine and/or engine seizes. That is just one. Then there are sensors. ..mods with off-shelf turbos that develop more pressure than the engine specs allow. .....there is the radiator which comes with a plastic capping which usually cracks and loses coolant. ..etc etc
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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quicksand wrote:Impunity wrote:accelriskconsult wrote:Scar wrote:To car gurus,
My Subaru had a problem with the engine block and finally the engine seized. I have come across divergent views from mechanics, one mechanic wants me to just get an engine block and he'll do the repairs since he says not all components are bad in the seized engine. The other mech has advised me to just get a new complete engine and fit it to the car. In comparison the block is cheaper by around 30-40k but am thinking there could be hidden costs.
Am confused btn the two choices,
saidieni... Get a complete engine. My friend changed his for 110k (forester). While at it make sure you understand why the engine seized so that you do not have to go through a similar experience. In his case some dove parts were found inside the engine. There is mystery as to how they entered there. Only two things can make the engine seize; lack of cooling water and lack of lubricating oil; nothing more nothing less! Its a bit more complicated than that though basically it still comes down to cooling ... you may have proper levels of oil and water but after a long, hard drive, the engine should be left running to dissipate the heat, esp turbo ones. Most newbies dont know this, after the turbo charged unit rolls off the ship, they gun the car at max speed for 500km to Nairobi, switch it off and enter the pub to brag. A forgiving engine lets you do this a few times before the turbine and/or engine seizes. That is just one. Then there are sensors. ..mods with off-shelf turbos that develop more pressure than the engine specs allow. .....there is the radiator which comes with a plastic capping which usually cracks and loses coolant. ..etc etc Thought all turbo-charged cars these days come fitted with turbo-timers to protect such drivers from themselves... Wrong? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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I don't know @seppuku, the newer turbo charged subarus are a bit expensive, have never been nice and cozy with one...
Still, a 2000, 2500 or 3000 cc naturally aspirated Subaru will easily hit 180kph and keep going for hours, and these ones have no timers.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2010 Posts: 391 Location: nairobie
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whats important is to know the initial problem of the engine and get an expat to sort u if the engine looks complicated just get another one
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/2/2011 Posts: 629 Location: Nai
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Kwanini wrote:@accelriskconsult: That's a lie right there: who's foolin who? Ati dove parts? any engine will be destroyed by lack of lubrication [oil/water] , or sabotage, or failing crucial parts like timing belts, seized bearings etc. mambo ya doves to be left to Kalumanzira, the mganga at Githurai 44. I am not a mechanic so wouldnt know whether he lied to me or not. But this may change your thinking that only overheating can cause engine seizure. http://www.ehow.com/info...toms-seized-engine.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 68
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quicksand wrote:New engine. Dont try and save coins here bro, utalilia kwa choo. Turbo charged or naturally aspirated? it is non turbo to be or not to be remains the question
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 68
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subaru wrote:whats important is to know the initial problem of the engine and get an expat to sort u if the engine looks complicated just get another one The engine had a faint knocking sound which was diagnosed as a slow knock or something to be or not to be remains the question
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2008 Posts: 68
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accelriskconsult wrote:Kwanini wrote:@accelriskconsult: That's a lie right there: who's foolin who? Ati dove parts? any engine will be destroyed by lack of lubrication [oil/water] , or sabotage, or failing crucial parts like timing belts, seized bearings etc. mambo ya doves to be left to Kalumanzira, the mganga at Githurai 44. I am not a mechanic so wouldnt know whether he lied to me or not. But this may change your thinking that only overheating can cause engine seizure. http://www.ehow.com/info...toms-seized-engine.html
Thanks for the link. It describes the situation as it is. to be or not to be remains the question
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2010 Posts: 939 Location: Nai
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Just replace the engine. seized engine has to be completely rebuild if the fundi didn't clearly identify the problem you will have to deal with a myriad of problems after the rebuild and you will pay more.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2010 Posts: 728 Location: Wazuaville
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dove in the engine?  and how was it running before ceasing? I think that was sludge that has almost solidified. if so then the cause is poor oil and adulterated fuel, and/or lack of proper servicing like not changing the oil filter or draining the sump completely "Money never sleeps"
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