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guru267
#21 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 10:46:38 AM
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dunkang wrote:
come the next year, Total will be back to the game.


Is this something you tell yourself every year?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#22 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03:46 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Kenya-Re: Gov't control scares me. KPLC started having cashflow problems after GoK ended up with 51%. They refused the politically expedient tariff increase which was due KPLC & highlighted in the Rights IM. KPLC could & should have sued but did not coz GoK owns 51%. Another is KQ now that GoK has a larger shareholding vs KLM. Will GoK 'buy' peace with the 'electorate' using politically expedient decisions?

So will Kenya-Re suffer similar problems? Will it pay out on losses it should not? Does Kenya-Re have the ability to compete without government protection?

@VVS are you aware of all the re branding and management changes going on at Kenya re?

The government plans to fatten the profitability & efficiency of the firm before ceding majority of its stake to a strategic investor in line with with its grand privatisation plan!!

Lets not be stuck in the Moi days!!
OK, but better safe than sorry. I will stick with those firms where GoK's ownership/influence is significantly below 50%. KCB comes to mind where GoK is only 17.63% vs KenRe.

For all the re-branding & management changes at KenRe [including forcing KE firms to cede re-insurance to KenRe] the folks at Jubilee are & doing much better than KenRe hands down.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mukiri
#23 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 11:43:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
OK, but better safe than sorry. I will stick with those firms where GoK's ownership/influence is significantly below 50%. KCB comes to mind where GoK is only 17.63% vs KenRe.

For all the re-branding & management changes at KenRe [including forcing KE firms to cede re-insurance to KenRe] the folks at Jubilee are & doing much better than KenRe hands down.


I'm with you on this one.

Question. Demand for Jubilee @184 Supply available @194. There hasn't been any movement in the last few days, relent or wait for a dip?

Proverbs 19:21
the deal
#24 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 12:10:41 PM
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CFCI/Liberty Kenya is a diamond in the rough! It could easily go to KES16 in 2013. CFCI accounting is good. in 2011 they disclosed the huge hit they took on their bond portfolio unlike Kenyan banks!
ProverB
#25 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 12:46:11 PM
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the deal wrote:
CFCI/Liberty Kenya is a diamond in the rough! It could easily go to KES16 in 2013. CFCI accounting is good. in 2011 they disclosed the huge hit they took on their bond portfolio unlike Kenyan banks!


Please pardon my ignorance.. is cfci (listed) and liberty one entity?
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Ericsson
#26 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 12:57:49 PM
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I do not foresee any reduction in shareholding by the government in Kenya Re.
The trend worldwide is for gava to have majority shareholding in strategic industries
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
guru267
#27 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 1:06:06 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
I do not foresee any reduction in shareholding by the government in Kenya Re.
The trend worldwide is for gava to have majority shareholding in strategic industries


Trust me if GOK has been exiting banks then i do not see why they would hold on to reinsurance!!

The former industry is way way more strategic than the latter...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ChessMaster
#28 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 1:15:43 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
I do not foresee any reduction in shareholding by the government in Kenya Re.
The trend worldwide is for gava to have majority shareholding in strategic industries


Trust me if GOK has been exiting banks then i do not see why they would hold on to reinsurance!!

The former industry is way way more strategic than the latter...


Greece?
In what way?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Ericsson
#29 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 3:37:40 PM
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@guru267 they have suddenly acquired additional stake in KQ.
They are disposing Telkom Kenya and holding onto Safaricom the fresh cow that produces milk.
The gava is disposing non-performing entities
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
guru267
#30 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:17:17 AM
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being majority held by the government does come with its perks!! Check this out..

www.businessdailyafrica....32/-/is756o/-/index.html
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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