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Aguytrying
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:37:32 PM
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There are some companies that are decent and have reasonable future prospects, but for some reason they have been neglected by investors and their prices have tanked and stagnated. and are grossly undervalued.
Is there an investment case for the following stocks? and is there anything that ails these stocks?

CAR and GENERAL
KENYA RE
NBK??( doubt on health of company)
MUMIAS
TOTAL ( especially this one)


For TOTAL did the share actions by parent company cause too much dilution?
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
guru267
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:47:11 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:

Is there an investment case for the following stocks? and is there anything that ails these stocks?

KENYA RE


Kenya re has a forward P/E of 3.5 and a dividend yield of 4.5%.. Lets not forget the 0.6 P/B...

We must also remember Kenya re owns 1% of KCB which earned it 400million capital gains when the share moved from 16.40-30 in 2012!

The capital gains quoted above does not include the other investments they own!

If this is not a case for investment I dont know what is...
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Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:11:46 PM
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@guru - that fact about Kenya RE owning 1% of KCB is very interesting. Indeed this counter is undervalued! Will dig further on it since I see 2013 being the insurance firms year if elections are held peacefully.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:18:15 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:

Is there an investment case for the following stocks? and is there anything that ails these stocks?

KENYA RE


Kenya re has a forward P/E of 3.5 and a dividend yield of 4.5%.. Lets not forget the 0.6 P/B...

We must also remember Kenya re owns 1% of KCB which earned it 400million capital gains when the share moved from 16.40-30 in 2012!

The capital gains quoted above does not include the other investments they own!

If this is not a case for investment I dont know what is...


Im already sold on this one, im just being greedy
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murchr
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:48:54 PM
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Politics is what holds mumias back. You can add Unga...and HFCK to that list....Shhhhhh on Kenya RE.
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Angelica _ann
#6 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:52:31 PM
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murchr wrote:
you can add Unga...and HFCK to that list


totaly agreed! been picking HFCK @15-15.5bob and Unga at below 13 bob.
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Mukiri
#7 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:32:41 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
you can add Unga...and HFCK to that list


totaly agreed! been picking HFCK @15-15.5bob and Unga at below 13 bob.


What is the magic behind Unga?

Aguytrying wrote:
There are some companies that are decent and have reasonable future prospects, but for some reason they have been neglected by investors and their prices have tanked and stagnated. and are grossly undervalued.
Is there an investment case for the following stocks? and is there anything that ails these stocks?

CAR and GENERAL
KENYA RE
NBK??( doubt on health of company)
MUMIAS
TOTAL ( especially this one)


For TOTAL did the share actions by parent company cause too much dilution?


Please say more about Total, I'm curious as to why nobody seems to share your enthusiasm on it.

Proverbs 19:21
uchumi
#8 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:38:01 PM
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CFCI is another stock we are ignoring.This stock will surprise many .
“I don’t regret the things I’ve done, I regret the things I didn’t do when I had the chance.”
Aguytrying
#9 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:38:39 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
you can add Unga...and HFCK to that list


totaly agreed! been picking HFCK @15-15.5bob and Unga at below 13 bob.


What is the magic behind Unga?

Aguytrying wrote:
There are some companies that are decent and have reasonable future prospects, but for some reason they have been neglected by investors and their prices have tanked and stagnated. and are grossly undervalued.
Is there an investment case for the following stocks? and is there anything that ails these stocks?

CAR and GENERAL
KENYA RE
NBK??( doubt on health of company)
MUMIAS
TOTAL ( especially this one)


For TOTAL did the share actions by parent company cause too much dilution?


Please say more about Total, I'm curious as to why nobody seems to share your enthusiasm on it.


I didnt include UNGA despite it being undervalued and a great company, because it has rallied in the last year. HFCK was a done deal for me.

TOTAL, i also have question marks?? The parent company was awarded shares, i dont know how dilutive they were.

MUMIAS, what about comesa rules will it trim they profits??
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maka
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:27:34 PM
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uchumi wrote:
CFCI is another stock we are ignoring.This stock will surprise many .

...CFCI will surprise many not because its a great company but because it has some pushers behind it...i remember the days when total waz amongst the top in terms of dividend yield....will we ever go back to that,28-32 region.
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