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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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After our team's loss over the weekend, I have heard no one speak about the match in both my offline and soccer crazy world, and in wazua.
So I hesitantly went to nation news.
I wasn't all together surprised to find Nyamweya lamenting about a lack of quality strikers. In Kenya, the blame is always on someone else.
This assertion by the FKF is in apparent contradiction to an answer given to me by a friend of mine who is now playing in the first division after spending some time in the premier league. The player had no kind words on the FKF and the entire soccer system.
I have been playing soccer, and though not a gifted player I can't say I am not skilled enough to know a thing or two about soccer, particularly when it comes to scoring goals.
Soccer is a game of combining ideas and skills and executing them with confidence.
Apparently all these are lacking in our team, and have rarely been there. Why?
I have 3 possible reasons for this:
1. We are too oriented to finding personal wealth and fame.
2. We don't consider failure as a building block for future success and have no energy to handle it.
3. The Kenyan nation in general offers an unworkable template for her organizations.
My player friend recommended that among other redemptive measures we should have more under 16 tournaments. This requires local organization and funding, and wider media coverage.
This may bring some change, but what are your thoughts?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Maybe not a fkl issue but tycho I would be interested in knowing your opinion on point number 3 3. The Kenyan nation in general offers an unworkable template for her organizations. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I have sadly concluded that we're not a footballing nation. We love football and our strength is in spectating and not playing. It is time we admitted the truth and push the resources to other sports with potential like rugby, athletics, volleyball, swimming, boxing, motor race etc. We need to neglect soccer and let it build itself up from the ground again. That's the way to redeem it.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:Maybe not a fkl issue but tycho I would be interested in knowing your opinion on point number 3
3. The Kenyan nation in general offers an unworkable template for her organizations. @Alma, Kenya, is a system that should ideally be working for Kenyans first and even more than it should work for non Kenyans. But this isn't and hasn't been the case since Kenya began. Let us take 3 examples. 1. Corruption has risen gradually since independence, and shows no signs of decreasing. Corruption here means the lowering of expectations of receiving specified inputs or participating in processes that improve both the individual and the system alike. Gradually, laws are losing importance. 2. Kenyan organizations exhibit relatively lower performance both economically and socially. Currently most organizations are in the Jua Kali and non profit making sectors. 3. The Kenyan nation suffers from imbalances in trade and current account, even despite increases in petroleum and electricity consumption, and increased manufacturing and construction activity. Clearly most of our activity doesn't benefit us. Just look at the brain and brawn drain we have been experiencing? Even mothers are praying for their daughters to get wazungu men!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:I have sadly concluded that we're not a footballing nation. We love football and our strength is in spectating and not playing.
It is time we admitted the truth and push the resources to other sports with potential like rugby, athletics, volleyball, swimming, boxing, motor race etc.
We need to neglect soccer and let it build itself up from the ground again. That's the way to redeem it. @2012, have we shown a positive trend in these other sports? So far, I haven't seen one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:I have sadly concluded that we're not a footballing nation. We love football and our strength is in spectating and not playing.
It is time we admitted the truth and push the resources to other sports with potential like rugby, athletics, volleyball, swimming, boxing, motor race etc.
We need to neglect soccer and let it build itself up from the ground again. That's the way to redeem it. ...@2012 i tend to disagree we have super footballing talent in this country just take some time and go watch the school ball games from provi to nationals there are so many players who can do kenya proud,i grew up watching a tourna called weche cup at madaraka estate i waz alwayz mesmerised by the skills exhibited from guyz from langata,mada,south c,nrb west etc as usual this players dint go anywea since there is no structure for the youth,they ended up being walevi and idlers in the estate....that is so sad...like @tychos pal said lets have an under 21,under 18,under 16...football structures,well run pro leagues where proper coaches are employed to train the young lads...just imagine akina fab,messi,iniesta and co have been in an academy since a tender age of 7 thereabout kwanini wasikuwae wanoma this guys know basically everythn about modern football...now compare them to our players who train for around 2hrz a day frm the age of 18 upwards,basic skills like ball control havent been instilled...translates to hogwash football...with the likes of sam nyamweya who puts the image of his face on a national game ticket ati for security purpose we arent going anywea,bure kabisa.nkt possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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Have you been to the places that nurture so called talent in Kenya? Jericho Lumumba grounds or Pumwani? You'll struggle to spot the ball just as we did on sunday.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:@2012, have we shown a positive trend in these other sports? So far, I haven't seen one. I think we have, but they are heavily underfunded unlike our worst performing sport, soccer. maka wrote:..@2012 i tend to disagree we have super footballing talent in this country just take some time and go watch the school ball games from provi to nationals there are so many players who can do kenya proud, We have been in this cycle for a long time now, our ranking in the world is laughable. I think we took soccer for granted because all boys play and love soccer. We should dismantle all these organisations and cut funding and let it go through a rebirth. The players are not happy, the coaches are not happy, the officials are not happy, the fans are not happy. So now? In marketing they have this curve that brands go through; introduction, growth, maturity, decline, death. Like the juice Tree Top, we're at death and we need to let football re-invent itself.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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We will be talking about the state of our soccer until kingdom comes unless we go the way of youth academies and also leave soccer adminstartion to managers rather politicians.I say this with a heavy heart.After the match,one of the officials interviewed was a Mr. Mukolwe (don't know what he is in FKF).Surprised i was.I know the guy as a retired former unionist and a wheel-loader operator.I know him many years and i don't remember him being an official even from his village......what do we expect then? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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2012 wrote:tycho wrote:@2012, have we shown a positive trend in these other sports? So far, I haven't seen one. I think we have, but they are heavily underfunded unlike our worst performing sport, soccer. maka wrote:..@2012 i tend to disagree we have super footballing talent in this country just take some time and go watch the school ball games from provi to nationals there are so many players who can do kenya proud, We have been in this cycle for a long time now, our ranking in the world is laughable. I think we took soccer for granted because all boys play and love soccer. We should dismantle all these organisations and cut funding and let it go through a rebirth. The players are not happy, the coaches are not happy, the officials are not happy, the fans are not happy. So now? In marketing they have this curve that brands go through; introduction, growth, maturity, decline, death. Like the juice Tree Top, we're at death and we need to let football re-invent itself. My two cents: 1. Corruption is pandemic. Yes. It starts at FIFA all the way to FKL.... no easy way out, we must choose the hard way get FIFA ban by banding out the FKL asap. 2. Football administration i.e FKL (whatever the name) is not a the lowest levels enough, I recall the days I had a KFF card as a player at District league level, this is no longer the case. 3. Sporting facilities have been "grabbed" look at the social halls, eastliegh, Huruma, Majengo, Pumwani, Muthurwa etc where great boxers were made. All gone. Solution: Invest in sports infrastructure and their management. 4. Continue as if nothing is going wrong. Pamper the likes of Sam Nyamweya and company (including other sports athletics, boxing, lately cricket maybe exclude rugby) instead of sending them where they belong. Jail.
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