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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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What is one supposed to say during the kumenya mucii visit? I already have the wazee to talk. when given a chance to talk, what do I say? How did you handle yours, for those who have gone through the process? @kabz, njunge, et al, please help.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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 Whatever you say, please don't say 'Your daughter is good in bed'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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@Mukiri, wewe cheka tu. Have you done this? I doubt. @radio, give a hypothetical intro. seems wazuans elders are all on holiday. ziishe haraka so they can trickle back.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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kenmac wrote:I have searched the internet for comprehensive information regarding kikuyu dowry rules, and the web is getting smaller because the websites have just copy pasted from each other.
I need to know; Suppose a man did not pay dowry for his wife. In this scenario, it is against the customs and traditions for the man to receive dowry when one of his daughters is getting married. What does the culture say about a son marrying. Can the son give dowry to his fiance's family, or must the dad clear with the grandparents?
I need the help from wazua kikuyu elders. I had posed this very question to my grandfather before he went to rest(may his soul RIP)He told me a son can go ahead and marry without being held hostage by what the father did or did not do. The person who get's it tough is a daughter coz if the dad had not visited his wife's place, he must fulfill the obligation first otherwise it is a taboo for him to even think of touching a thing! Again, its a taboo for a man to ask more than he ever gave, though the way they beat that is by valuing the "sheep" higher eg If he was asked to give a bull, or 5 sheep for example, he will still ask for the 5 sheep, but now he may value each sheep at 20k or 30k etc...just as an example.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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kenmac wrote:What is one supposed to say during the kumenya mucii visit? I already have the wazee to talk.
when given a chance to talk, what do I say?
How did you handle yours, for those who have gone through the process?
@kabz, njunge, et al, please help. @Kenmac, have you joined kiama? Are the wazees you are taking to talk on your behalf themselves elders in the kiama? Answers to these questions might arise when you arrive and they will be better placed when getting all the fine details sorted like earlier enumerated by @Ali, on harika, mwate, mburi ya uira etc. You need to enroll in the kiama by giving the wazees their mbuzi (2) and later uhorie (1).
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2010 Posts: 503 Location: Kenya
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kenmac wrote:I have searched the internet for comprehensive information regarding kikuyu dowry rules, and the web is getting smaller because the websites have just copy pasted from each other.
I need to know; Suppose a man did not pay dowry for his wife. In this scenario, it is against the customs and traditions for the man to receive dowry when one of his daughters is getting married. What does the culture say about a son marrying. Can the son give dowry to his fiance's family, or must the dad clear with the grandparents?
I need the help from wazua kikuyu elders. If you do not follow some of these traditional practices, they will come to haunt you later on. Culture is very important in as much as we have become westernized..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote: Whatever you say, please don't say 'Your daughter is good in bed' Okay...
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2011 Posts: 730 Location: Nairobi
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What about the children of single mothers? Obviously no dowry was paid for the mothers.... our goals are best achieved indirectly
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