I have searched the internet for comprehensive information regarding kikuyu dowry rules, and the web is getting smaller because the websites have just copy pasted from each other.

I need to know; Suppose a man did not pay dowry for his wife. In this scenario, it is against the customs and traditions for the man to receive dowry when one of his daughters is getting married. What does the culture say about a son marrying. Can the son give dowry to his fiance's family, or must the dad clear with the grandparents?

I need the help from wazua kikuyu elders.

but:
had the father visited? in my view, the process may have started...eg
had done
'kumenya mucii'
had been shown 'kiara kia guikia mahuti'
and had perhaps paid 'mwati na harika'
etc....and if they had done 'kuhoya uhiki' stuff.
if you had done all that but had not yet paid the dowry, in my view, the son can go ahead and pay dowry.
but if the father never even went once to report 'theft', then the no dowry can be paid or received from that house until the 'goat thieft' announces he has the goat, does all the processes and pay dowry, even if in part.
my 1 cent

^^^^^Thats the same with Kaos.

@ali, thanks. please give details of what happens during stages you have mentioned.


Am on the hot seat, and next Saturday is crucifix.

I think it will also depend on the circumstances at play but strictly speaking, the son should settle his mother's dowry before his own