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sentinel prime
#621 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 7:13:14 PM
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I've seen studies that have shown China overtaking the USA as early as 2016 in gdp terms. There is no doubt that China will become a superpower soon if it ain't already.

USA will be just another big country like Canada without unlimited power.England lost its superpower state by the turn of 1900 and I suspect the USA is in inevitable decline. manufacturing jobs are disappearing and the Chinese kids constantly score the highest in IQ tests.China has passed the USA in patents.

nevertheless shale oil/gas deposits are enough to last 100+ yrs and earnest production has just began ,this is the greatest discovery of our generation just like oil and electricity in 19th century .....enough to enable the growth of new economies for generations....the commodity bubble is about to burst just like in the 70s.
murchr
#622 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 7:38:24 PM
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sentinel prime wrote:
I've seen studies that have shown China overtaking the USA as early as 2016 in gdp terms. There is no doubt that China will become a superpower soon if it ain't already.

USA will be just another big country like Canada without unlimited power.England lost its superpower state by the turn of 1900 and I suspect the USA is in inevitable decline. manufacturing jobs are disappearing and the Chinese kids constantly score the highest in IQ tests.China has passed the USA in patents.

nevertheless shale oil/gas deposits are enough to last 100+ yrs and earnest production has just began ,this is the greatest discovery of our generation just like oil and electricity in 19th century .....enough to enable the growth of new economies for generations....the commodity bubble is about to burst just like in the 70s.



I guess everything is about to burst Laughing out loudly
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sentinel prime
#623 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 8:17:34 PM
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ha ha ha laugh now cry later....
Nabwire
#624 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 8:38:35 PM
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Hisah all the things you've stated are contigent on good governance.
Thanks Jonah, I hope that thats a fact that only new entrants will be affected by any increases! I wasnt panicking about the decline of AOIFF price, I was worried about the effects of govt takeover, that would create a massive selloff. Other than that, there is no way I can sell, only I know the pain of buying the day before the stock dove 20%, and continuied diving to over 35% to present. So all things equal, if it continues with the decline, I'd be happy to buy at cheaper prices.
Sentinel Prime, you do realize China is in a great recession, and its future looks bleak, right?
murchr
#625 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 9:22:28 PM
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sentinel prime wrote:
ha ha ha laugh now cry later....


Why do you think China is hoaring commodities?

Gold

http://www.chinapost.com...48/Cabinet-approves.htm

http://www.forbes.com/si...is-hoarding-copper-why/

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577335722040019632.html

I know one thing for sure. The chings dont do monkey business.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sentinel prime
#626 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 9:51:07 PM
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@murchr coz the ching chongs are as crazy as everyone else once the fed stops QE and embarks on a tight monetary policy... theyll panic and drop it all...is gonna be total rock n roll.

@nabwire china is expected to grow by 7% annually...property prices have rebounded,and they can always devalue the yuan to remain competitive.
jonna
#627 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 10:11:55 PM
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sentinel prime wrote:
there is a good chance oil will below $50 in a decade when fracking comes into full force. In the 1970 oil touched $100 and by 1999 it touched $10!!!
this commodity boom will come to an end.

the next crazy bull market will be led by cheap oil and natgas as the chief energy sources.

by then maybe we wont even be able to give ours for free.


Goldman Sachs was allowed by the cftc to buy 25% of all the oil in the market for $5 a gallon earlier this year. You can only guess what will happen next. Same manipulation happened in 2008.
Energy.
jonna
#628 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 10:51:17 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
Hisah all the things you've stated are contigent on good governance.
Thanks Jonah, I hope that thats a fact that only new entrants will be affected by any increases! I wasnt panicking about the decline of AOIFF price, I was worried about the effects of govt takeover, that would create a massive selloff. Other than that, there is no way I can sell, only I know the pain of buying the day before the stock dove 20%, and continuied diving to over 35% to present. So all things equal, if it continues with the decline, I'd be happy to buy at cheaper prices.
Sentinel Prime, you do realize China is in a great recession, and its future looks bleak, right?


I got that from GOK and also the AOIFF conference call. GOVT take over? Where did you get that from? All I know is about the listing, the revenue sharing agreement and bidding of the blocks. I think Kenya is far from doing what Ecuador has done, not at least after they start producing oil and also if the production companies bring their nyoko nyoko e.g falsifying barrels produced.
I bought this stock months ago with the intention of selling it at $7 after the FDA approved their drug. The preliminary hearing was on Friday and the results of the meeting wasn't good at all hence 50% loss in the share price. Upon seeing that, I just added more because the FDA does not have a problem with the company, its the panel appointed by the FDA that's opposing the approval of the pain killer due to the "fact" that people will abuse it like any other pain killer. Zogenix inc is the name of the company.
Energy.
murchr
#629 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:24:04 AM
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sentinel prime wrote:
@murchr coz the ching chongs are as crazy as everyone else once the fed stops QE and embarks on a tight monetary policy... theyll panic and drop it all...is gonna be total rock n roll.

@nabwire china is expected to grow by 7% annually...property prices have rebounded,and they can always devalue the yuan to remain competitive.


Ching chongs are not crazy, they know very well that the value of the dollar is on its way down, so they are just securing their economy in more than just paper.

The chinese Economy has been on a slow down because of the recession in EU and the slow down in America, but notice the chongs are empowering/making sure other economics can fill in the gap(BRICS) they are not in Africa to just work but look for markets.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Nabwire
#630 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:57:24 AM
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Ching chong is a deragotary word, kuweni wapole msiwaite hivyo.
China has basically been backed into a corner, it stands to lose the most if the US defaults on its debt, so basically the US has power over them and right now China must dance to their tune. Murchr I guess I understand now why China is hoarding commodities, so si the best strategy is to let fahali wawili wapigane
Jonna I was just extrapolating, if ever Kenya went the Ecuador way. Goodluck on that drug, I'm not into drug companies coz if the FDA says the drug is not approved, there's no way around it.
hisah
#631 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:28:12 AM
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jonna wrote:
sentinel prime wrote:
there is a good chance oil will below $50 in a decade when fracking comes into full force. In the 1970 oil touched $100 and by 1999 it touched $10!!!
this commodity boom will come to an end.

the next crazy bull market will be led by cheap oil and natgas as the chief energy sources.

by then maybe we wont even be able to give ours for free.


Goldman Sachs was allowed by the cftc to buy 25% of all the oil in the market for $5 a gallon earlier this year. You can only guess what will happen next. Same manipulation happened in 2008.




I really hope that GS doesn't get its bet right. The turmoil it'll create will spinoff another sizable global economy slump with the fiscal cliff tension and a recessed euroland offering no support.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#632 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:43:02 PM
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Tullow Kenya is shopping to supplier of land-drilling and Land workover rigs and services through an open tendering process.

This is the first time the oil exploration firm has publicly sourced for such equipment and services through competitive advertised locally. Tullow oil is preparing for appraisal drilling at the Ngamia1 and Twiga1 wells in Turkana where they discovered oil.

Land-based drilling rigs consist of engines, a mast, pumps, drill string and related equipment, while, Land-based workover rigs are well-servicing rigs with a mobile carrier, which are easier to move between well sites and different geographical areas of operations than drilling rigs.

The Star
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#633 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:05:35 PM
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The mining rules still frothing - http://www.nation.co.ke/...20/-/8o0eq6/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#634 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 3:28:32 AM
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If these weren't too greedy, there would be no jitters. There's plenty for everyone. Those that don't like the idea are free to walk out. Balance must be maintained.

http://www.theeastafrica...52/-/3x2pfy/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#635 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 3:47:56 AM
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Watching this UG oil game by M7 closely. Oil is a big ego testoterone punch. Inflated ego sitting on pin tips. Who will burst first?

http://www.theeastafrica.../-/115bw5oz/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#636 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 3:59:52 AM
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Another play I hold that's about to take it in the chin today - http://www.theeastafrica...60/-/1ppaes/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#637 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:06:12 AM
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[quote=hisah]If these weren't too greedy, there would be no jitters. There's plenty for everyone. Those that don't like the idea are free to walk out. Balance must be maintained.

http://www.theeastafrica...2/-/3x2pfy/-/index.html[/quote]



Quote:
Kenya also wants all foreign mining companies to cede 35 per cent shares to local investors and institutions. The rule, expected to be effected by March 2013, has triggered opposition from executives in mining firms doing business in the country.


Excellent Applause Applause On the M7 story....I think he has some truth, but his demand that the Minister be given the power to revoke a license will only bring about issues.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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youcan'tstopusnow
#638 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:11:57 PM
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Location: Black Africa
Border disputes due to mineral resources. First Sudan, then Kenya-Somalia, and now Malawi-Tanzania
"Based on an 1890 colonial agreement, Malawi claims ownership of the whole of Lake Malawi. Tanzania insists that half the lake falls within its borders and is already eyeing it for
natural gas exploration."
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/1j4mt7z/-/index.html
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
murchr
#639 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 4:12:35 AM
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Interesting report here: http://www.caseyresearch...RaceforAfricanOilSR.pdf

Quote:
It’s no secret that world-class oil deposits lie under and off the coast of East Africa. Major
oil companies and wildcatters alike have been vying for position here in recent years.
What isn’t as well known is how much money countries such as China are sinking into the
region, and the planned and approved infrastructure they’ll finance in a swath of some of
the poorest nations in the world. During the next few decades, trillions of dollars will flood
into East Africa in exchange for its resource riches – and right now, most of that is set to
come from China.
What difference can that possibly make to us as investors? A big difference, considering
the two main issues here:
1. Energy security is critical.
2. East Africa can help other countries get it
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mukiri
#640 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:40:45 AM
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@Hisah, please forgive my ignorance, but is there a way we can make money/invest in this? Something about an early bird...

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