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As much as hamburglar wants us to believe he is 100% atheist some research suggests otherwise. An atheist does believe even if at a subconscious level- at least when he is confronted with the question of his own death. Quote:So, implicitly, do atheists believe in the Supernatural? Research suggests at least one instance in which this might be the case: when thinking of their own death.
In this study, atheists were randomly assigned to read either supposed evidence from near death experience reports that life after death is real or an essay arguing that these experiences do not prove that there is an afterlife. Then they were randomly assigned to write about death or a control topic. So, roughly 1/4 of the people were in one of four conditions: afterlife yes/death; afterlife yes/control; afterlife no/death; afterlife no/control.
Then after a delay and distraction (to make the thoughts of death implicit and outside of conscious awareness), participants (American) rated their agreement with an anti-American essay. Past research has found that when people are concerned with death, they agree less with this essay.
This study found that when atheists read an essay arguing against life after death, they responded to thinking about their own death (relative to the control topic) with increased pro-American attitudes. However, when they first read the essay arguing for life after death, they did not respond with increased pro-American attitudes.
This suggests that atheists were protected from mortality concerns by reading evidence that there is life after death, but not by reading the opposite. It is difficult (impossible?) to think of an argument for these findings that does include atheists accepting life after death evidence when thinking about their own death. On some (implicit) level, they had to for these effects to occur.
Other lines of research have found that priming people to think about God leads them to do more pro-social behaviors (like helping, although I could see such a prime doing the opposite in some cases). Interestingly, in most of these studies (though not all) there is no effect of religious belief on this effect. In other words, just like highly religious people, the God prime leads atheists (or at least no religiously affiliated people) to behave more pro-socially. Again, especially when these primes are not conscious, it is difficult to imagine why these primes would have these effects if atheists did not hold some sort of theism.
Psychologist Jesse Bering and others have found evidence that children natually perceive themselves as inmaterial (spiritual) beings. They also perceive other people this way. For instance, they think dead beings maintain psychological states, but not biological states, and do not react with shock when it appears that someone has gone through a physical object.
It seems reasonable that these early traces of theism in children never entirely go away, even for adults who explicitly deny these beliefs. Of course, this is speculation. But, it does seem to make sense.
So, if you asked atheists, they wouldn't say that they believe in life after death or God (I have and they don't). But, if the study taps into more implicit, subconscious attitudes, then atheists show atittudinal and behavioral responses that are very suggestive of them believing in God and life after death.
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Rank: User Joined: 6/18/2009 Posts: 271
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@hamburglar . what actually are you trying to prove . you look so silly showing off to a God who created you .Or you think you came from nowhere . Am sure at a time like this the heavens with your mother had an abortion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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techboy wrote:@hamburglar . what actually are you trying to prove . you look so silly showing off to a God who created you .Or you think you came from nowhere . Am sure at a time like this the heavens with your mother had an abortion. Hehehehe! we have our own evangelical atheists here on wazua and we know who they are. 
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/12/2010 Posts: 474 Location: Nairobi
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@techboy what religion are you? Did you make the choice or it was dictated to you by your family who took you to church/mosque or any other place of worship? I am a believer but I pity fellows who practice religion based on fear and mind control and emotions. They happen to be the same people going to heaven but don't want to die to get there. Keep it simple
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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techboy wrote:@hamburglar . what actually are you trying to prove . you look so silly showing off to a God who created you .Or you think you came from nowhere . Am sure at a time like this the heavens with your mother had an abortion. Awwww, ouch, low blow alert....lol...Did you really have to insult me and my dear mother like that? I thought as a "child of god" you are not supposed to insult people, or is that not the case anymore? Did the rules on insulting people change and I missed the memo? Please send me an email detailing the new rules where it says that "children of god" are now allowed to throw vicious insults at people and their mothers because I would like to keep a copy of that memo for myself on file for future reference when another "child of god" insults me...
That was a vicious insult dude, whoa, I am still reeling from it....I am not sure why you had to go there and drag my mother into this but I am a very easy going and forgiving dude so it's all good...I thought mothers were off limits...lol
Seriously though, just don't get into the habit of insulting people's mothers in the future, it's not cool at all...If you can't have a productive debate just walk away, don't hide your evil ways behind insults, it's wrong to throw people under the bus like you just did me and it's incredibly disturbing to insult someone's mother, that is the most uncool thing you can do...You can insult me all day and night, I don't mind, but just don't drag people's mothers into our little spat....Be a man for crying out loud, don't throw cheap shots.
Didn't your god not teach you to love your neighbour and to not insult them and their mothers? Wait until your god reads wazua and sees your post, he is going to punish you right after he is done punishing me....We are going to be washing dishes together dude, don't make any plans this weekend because your punishment is on it's way....lol.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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@hamburglar, in brief, why do you hate washing dishes so much?
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Rank: User Joined: 6/18/2009 Posts: 271
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Trust me God does have feeling . For the Bible says that he has an equal measure of both Love and Wrath and mind you its God and NOT god . you can refer to your god as god but when you are referring to our God refer to Him as God . Just bytheway thanks for all the insults and blasphemy you have published here . When you die i will just add you to the list of those who cursed God and died . Period !
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Rank: User Joined: 6/18/2009 Posts: 271
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richdad wrote:@techboy what religion are you? Did you make the choice or it was dictated to you by your family who took you to church/mosque or any other place of worship?
I am a believer but I pity fellows who practice religion based on fear and mind control and emotions. They happen to be the same people going to heaven but don't want to die to get there. I am a Christian . and i Love the bible. This is a free world and it has its consequences . If people want to follow the way of @hamburglar then they are free to do so thats why we have so so so so so many religions . But i have been taught there are laws and rules that God placed so that we can obey and have fruitful lives.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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[quote=josiah33]As much as hamburglar wants us to believe he is 100% atheist some research suggests otherwise. An atheist does believe even if at a subconscious level- at least when he is confronted with the question of his own death. [quote]So, implicitly, do atheists believe in the Supernatural? Research suggests at least one instance in which this might be the case: when thinking of their own death.
Hamburglar doesn't want you to believe anything, I am 100% atheist and I don't need to convince you otherwise...I don't care what you think about me or us atheists, we know who we are and we know what we are about so whatever researches you are reading about us are just a bunch of bs...
I don't and will never believe (even it a subconcious level) when faced with the question of death...lol...When I die, i will be worm food, six foot under, I won't start believing in nonsense just because I am about to die..That's not going to happen, your research was done by a drunk person, tell that researcher to do some more research and to put the bong down...Why are you guys so afraid of death? We will all die, stop being too afraid of death...Josiah, when you and I are both dead and you are in heaven and I am burning in hell, tell that god guy that I am asking him to give you my mansion (with manicured lawns) because I don't want him to give it to techboy....techboy insulted me and I don't want him to get my heavenly mansion, he is bad, he insults people's mothers....lol
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