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ProverB
#201 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 8:46:40 AM
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Something about m-shwari and the potential it holds

Former CEO Michael Joseph. Fireside Chat,iHub. 2010 wrote:

"..retail banking will disappear in 10 years time. Customers will not go there (to brick & mortar branches) except for loans, as ordinary banking will be on mobile phone whose convenience is unprecedented.."


http://www.bankelele.co.ke/

Plus, this one move has made doubting Thomas(es) reconsider Viability of Bob Collymore as a successor to enhance what MJ had begun. I guess it's quite good that He is following through with the plans and dreams MJ had for safcon.

It would be nice to know calibre of big volume buyers on this counter.

#Alternative banking taking shape. Nice.
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hisah
#202 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:53:24 AM
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Cash transfers to get taxed - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/em5qae/-/index.html

Mobile money to get slapped with 10% excise duty while mitumba clothes get an import duty reduction...

What is KE promoting? A mitumba economy...

Why slam the brakes on mobile money just to support blotted gubberment spending? KE econ needs stimulus and money velocity offered by mobile money to fasten development. SMH... d'oh!
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hisah
#203 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:42:21 PM
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Safaricom denies infringement claims over banking platform M-Shwari - http://www.businessdaily...8/-/yjg3h7/-/index.html

Quote:
“Safaricom Ltd seeks to clarify that M-Shwari is a proprietary product of Safaricom Limited which is the successful result of a 2-year product development process,” the mobile firm noted in a statement sent to media houses.

“While the allegations are lamentable and unfortunate, Safaricom will seek to have the matter resolved through the right legal processes and we believe that this law suit is tainted with malice because it is founded on untrue allegations.”
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#204 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 7:25:52 AM
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Airtel pays $400K as interconnection fees per month. Also quite disappointing is it doesn't view mobile money as a critical business for now! They pay agents via the transaction fees and retain nothing! They'd rather concentrate on churning voice customers from rival operators. It is also behind the curve in data business, but wants to concentrate more on acquiring those hopping voice clients. IMHO someone has lost the plot here. We will see if by 2015 they'll have broken even as they say with the peculiar KE subscriber. Buying their loyalty is no mean feat.

http://www.businessdaily...20/-/3ega1a/-/index.html
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Mukiri
#205 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 11:33:36 AM
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hisah wrote:
Cash transfers to get taxed - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/em5qae/-/index.html

Mobile money to get slapped with 10% excise duty while mitumba clothes get an import duty reduction...

What is KE promoting? A mitumba economy...

Why slam the brakes on mobile money just to support blotted gubberment spending? KE econ needs stimulus and money velocity offered by mobile money to fasten development. SMH... d'oh!


Greedy uncaring politiciansSad I think this country needs an economic advisory board. Something like LSK

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#206 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 11:41:58 AM
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Whatever happened to M-Kesho?
King James seems to have lost the most lucrative business deal of the year to the Kenyatta's CBA.

BBI will solve it :)
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#207 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 11:59:40 AM
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Whatever happened to M-Kesho?
King James seems to have lost the most lucrative business deal of the year to the Kenyatta's CBA.


CBA has been holding Mpesa cash in trust...they are the ones who offered Mpesa Guarantee to get CBK approval...(That's according to the new CBA CEO in an interview on K24)

IMHO CBA has been milking from Mpesa since its inception....the new solution is just an extension of the relationship.
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#208 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 12:11:34 PM
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hisah wrote:
Cash transfers to get taxed - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/em5qae/-/index.html

Mobile money to get slapped with 10% excise duty while mitumba clothes get an import duty reduction...

What is KE promoting? A mitumba economy...

Why slam the brakes on mobile money just to support blotted gubberment spending? KE econ needs stimulus and money velocity offered by mobile money to fasten development. SMH... d'oh!


I see no problem with a mitumba economy, pluse the excise duty wont stop or slow down the mobile money transfer business
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#209 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 12:47:04 PM
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nakujua wrote:
hisah wrote:
Cash transfers to get taxed - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/em5qae/-/index.html

Mobile money to get slapped with 10% excise duty while mitumba clothes get an import duty reduction...

What is KE promoting? A mitumba economy...

Why slam the brakes on mobile money just to support blotted gubberment spending? KE econ needs stimulus and money velocity offered by mobile money to fasten development. SMH... d'oh!


I see no problem with a mitumba economy, pluse the excise duty wont stop or slow down the mobile money transfer business

Do you prefer the destruction of the textile industry? If this industry was to be revived, it would create more jobs and boost the economy than selling mitumbas!

The excise duty will definitely be passed on to the consumer and that will lead to higher transaction fees thus reducing the transactions volume. So how will this earn more tax revenues for the govt.

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#210 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 1:51:10 PM
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hisah wrote:
nakujua wrote:
hisah wrote:
Cash transfers to get taxed - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/em5qae/-/index.html

Mobile money to get slapped with 10% excise duty while mitumba clothes get an import duty reduction...

What is KE promoting? A mitumba economy...

Why slam the brakes on mobile money just to support blotted gubberment spending? KE econ needs stimulus and money velocity offered by mobile money to fasten development. SMH... d'oh!


I see no problem with a mitumba economy, pluse the excise duty wont stop or slow down the mobile money transfer business

Do you prefer the destruction of the textile industry? If this industry was to be revived, it would create more jobs and boost the economy than selling mitumbas!

The excise duty will definitely be passed on to the consumer and that will lead to higher transaction fees thus reducing the transactions volume. So how will this earn more tax revenues for the govt.

All taxes get passed on to consumers. Githae was being sneaky when he claimed the cost is to be borne by telcom operators. Airtel offers free money transfers. They may choose to 'eat' it for now but in the long-run it will be charged to consumers/users.
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#211 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 2:14:06 PM
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M-Shwari nets 70000 accounts on the first day - http://bit.ly/YCIXWQ

I have just come across this article. That was some speedy take up!
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#212 Posted : Friday, December 14, 2012 6:07:13 PM
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This coming from substandard aka tabloid should be taken with a pitch of salt.

Telkom Kenya faces heat over unlimited data service - http://bit.ly/UVehMp
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#213 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:53:05 PM
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With the demand, why is the price stuck at 5.05? Xmass season?

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#214 Posted : Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:21:09 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
With the demand, why is the price stuck at 5.05? Xmass season?


@Mukiri this stock has rallied from 2.80bob back to its IPO price in 2012... Time for it to take a breather!

Unless the market P/E goes up i don't see safcon rallying beyond here.. (market P/E likely to go up if elections go smoothly)
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#215 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:31:57 AM
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Kenyans so far have saved over Sh150 million through M-Shwari and loans currently standing at over Sh50 million with healthy repayment trends already noted.
M-Shwari
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#216 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:33:12 AM
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Jamani wrote:
Kenyans so far have saved over Sh150 million through M-Shwari and loans currently standing at over Sh50 million with healthy repayment trends already noted.



Source?
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#217 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:35:40 AM
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#218 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:01:52 AM
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Jamani wrote:
Kenyans so far have saved over Sh150 million through M-Shwari and loans currently standing at over Sh50 million with healthy repayment trends already noted.
M-Shwari


whats safcom's cut in this, i.e. Percentages, rates, commisions?
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#219 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:29:24 AM
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A loan to deposit ratio of 30% is more than ideal for unsecured lending products! Looks like another hit for safcon has emerged through M-shwari!

Applause
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#220 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:12:12 AM
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guru267 wrote:
A loan to deposit ratio of 30% is more than ideal for unsecured lending products! Looks like another hit for safcon has emerged through M-shwari!

Applause

Commendable in quite a short span. Can we get statistics for Kopa Chapaa for comparison purposes. Need to see the forecast effect on the micro economy side.
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