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Is it possible to land on an infected airport and come out unscathed? Allegedly, a chic has been flying with her infected boyfie, but she is OK. How is this possible? LinkLive Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Zuma!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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InnovateGuy wrote:Is it possible to land on an infected airport and come out unscathed? Allegedly, a chic has been flying with her infected boyfie, but she is OK. How is this possible? Link Yes, thats why we have discordant couples. If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
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She is literally playing with fire. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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lovenuffs wrote:
Yes, that's why we have discordant couples.
What are the "tricks"? Does it boil down to chance? Maybe some people know something we don't.
Any doctors/counselors to explain why this happens?
We are talking of a prolonged period here. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Some Chinese researcher has found out that in 98% discordant couples he studied, where the infected one is on a regimen of ARV, the uninfected partner doesn't contract the virus. Sina RINK.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/13/2006 Posts: 2,589
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I actually thought it is the other way round. The little bio I did in seco said something to the effect that the virus attaches itself only on epithelial cells - like the ones on the inside of your cheek. Now, for a man, only the tip of the urethra has exposed epithelial cells (and even those have to be parted with the fingers to expose them like fish lips), probably they only get exposed proper during the act when you empty your swimmers into the valley of paradise. Now, women on the other hand, have a whole valley of epithelial cells literally waiting for suckers to attach. That, I understand, is the reason why a man can sleep with a woman who has mukingo and not get infected while a woman who sleeps with an infected man almost definitely gets infected! Hence the double/triple figures amongst female HIV infections compared to their male counterparts. Now, doctors/experts in the house, kweri ama rogo??? BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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i believe if she was put on ARV Therapy before or a day or so after the unprotected sex begun, she will remain negative especially if other precautions such as coitus int. are observed. Meru Holiness
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/13/2011 Posts: 660
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smano wrote:I actually thought it is the other way round.
The little bio I did in seco said something to the effect that the virus attaches itself only on epithelial cells - like the ones on the inside of your cheek.
Now, for a man, only the tip of the urethra has exposed epithelial cells (and even those have to be parted with the fingers to expose them like fish lips), probably they only get exposed proper during the act when you empty your swimmers into the valley of paradise.
Now, women on the other hand, have a whole valley of epithelial cells literally waiting for suckers to attach.
That, I understand, is the reason why a man can sleep with a woman who has mukingo and not get infected while a woman who sleeps with an infected man almost definitely gets infected! Hence the double/triple figures amongst female HIV infections compared to their male counterparts.
Now, doctors/experts in the house, kweri ama rogo???  exactly
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Much Know wrote:i believe if she was put on ARV Therapy before or a day or so after the unprotected sex begun, she will remain negative especially if other precautions such as coitus int. are observed. She has been sleeping with him many times Quote:I’m 24 years old and I live in Nairobi. I have been dating a man who is HIV positive and although we have had unprotected sex many times, I tested negative.
My dilemma is how we shall have babies. I love him so much and I don’t want to lose him
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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Well then more information is needed(like how long, last test, last whatever), she may be in the process, just waiting to turn +ve, which is not a special case as people don't turn +ve immediately, it is very likely she will test +ve in time if she is not on ARV. Meru Holiness
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/13/2006 Posts: 2,589
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Or maybe she has those T-cells or whatever that those pokos of majengo used to exhibit sometime back mpaka they were used as guinea pigs to try and come up with a vaccine...speaking of which, whatever came of that exercise? BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,554
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Yeah, smano, thats another possibility, another one is that it is a cock and bull story made up to attract attention to the column. Meru Holiness
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smano wrote:Or maybe she has those T-cells or whatever that those pokos of majengo used to exhibit sometime back mpaka they were used as guinea pigs to try and come up with a vaccine...speaking of which, whatever came of that exercise?
@smano, you are quite knowledgable on these matters. Please share more info. And you lied to us, its not high school biology; everything sounds greek to me and yet i passed my biology paper 20 years ago.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223
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InnovateGuy wrote:Is it possible to land on an infected airport and come out unscathed? Allegedly, a chic has been flying with her infected boyfie, but she is OK. How is this possible? Link It is possible!There is a terminology 'Transmission probability per exposure event' which can explain the lack of infection of this chick despite many exposures which can be as a result of the following: i) The girl may have a genetic advantage and lack full expression of CCR5 co-receptor either as homozygote or heterozygote. In wazungus its delete 32bp in Africa delete 24bp. ii) the guy is on ARVs and has not developed resistance so the viral load is very low....the higher the viral load the higher the chances of transmission. iii) The site of landing..... if the guy lands on the real airport (vagina) chances are 1 in 200 to 1 in 2000 exposure events..depending on viral load and the type of HIV that the guy has.. Remember all HIV viruses are differences and infection or transmission events are different. If the guy lands on the intestinal tract (plugs+sockets) the transmission is higher 1 in 20 to 1 in 300. Kindly note that these are probabilities. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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@ McReggae. Zuma went for one term (Hit and run). The chic mentioned in the link said she has a a kafry so many times! @ Smano. Does it mean that if a guy does no offload the swimmers, he'll be safe coz the epithelial cells are not exposed? Following the analogy of suckers willing to attach,it will mean that women need to fly just once and GBAAM..they have it. T cells... that's interesting. Can you expound on this? @ Much Know. The uninfected lady on ARV? ARV is for the infected(if I'm not wrong).. thought the pre-exposure drugs are called PRP or something. How safe are they? Anyone? @ BGL. Interesting.... any link? Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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A research was done by a famous uni on discordant couples in Uganda and the details well explained. Cant post link cz am limiting my browsing. sina stima.kplc nyaus. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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