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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Washika dau katika sekta ya matatu wameanza kukusanya sahihi milioni moja ili sheria mpya za trafiki zitupiliwe mbali... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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In this instance, i agree with them, the jail terms are unwarranted for anything less than vehicular homicide under the influence of alcohol. Financial penalties are ok. We must surely have better things to do with our jails like locking up the serial corrupt members of society. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:Washika dau katika sekta ya matatu wameanza kukusanya sahihi milioni moja ili sheria mpya za trafiki zitupiliwe mbali... Kamwe hawataweza kushindana na serikal.Nduru ya kuaminika linasema ya kwamba idara ya polisi imewaweka afisa wake wote kwa hali ya tahadhari ili watie kibandoni yoyote yule ataothubutu kutotii sheria hilo mpya mnamo disemba mosi.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/13/2011 Posts: 284 Location: Nairobi
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I ws in a food joint yesterday n they were strategising on how to get th a milli signatures, trust me, they will, they hv th numbers
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Gadaffi wrote:I ws in a food joint yesterday n they were strategising on how to get th a milli signatures, trust me, they will, they hv th numbers ...how will the signatures help again??They are misguided.You collect one million signatures to change a clause in the Constitution not a statute passed by Parliament.That is only amended by the August House. Where were they when the thing was going through the three readings in parliament. In as much as i agree with them that the fines are high and it will lead to mega corruption i also am of the view that in the end it will bring sanity to our roads. Kwanza drunks na mat drivers. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/13/2011 Posts: 660
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traffic cops will be multi-millionaires by the end of december. 500k fine for drunk driving. i can see them waiting for walevi's outside tamasha and westy on sato night. taxi operators are a happy lot
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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TiggerTiggy wrote:traffic cops will be multi-millionaires by the end of december. 500k fine for drunk driving. i can see them waiting for walevi's outside tamasha and westy on sato night. taxi operators are a happy lot ...its simple dont drink then drive,ukishikwa shauri yako kuna shida zingine za kujitakia... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@maka, hapo umenena. It is shameful that an activist nation like Kenya did not know about the law before Kibaki assented to it. Goes a long way in showing how political we are. Too busy discussing vitendawili and ICC to care about the new law that directly affects us.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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It is the law, follow it and be safe. We cannot have a lawless a state and live peacefully. Like a case in Likoni, Watiti farm, where thugs in the name of squatters demonstrate after unlawfully settling on someone's property, it is unacceptable, and the law must be followed. so don't drink and drive, don't overlap, dont over-speed dont jump traffic light and life will be easy. "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:Washika dau katika sekta ya matatu wameanza kukusanya sahihi milioni moja ili sheria mpya za trafiki zitupiliwe mbali... Kamwe hawataweza kushindana na serikal. Nduru ya kuaminika linasema ya kwamba idara ya polisi imewaweka afisa wake wote kwa hali ya tahadhari ili watie kibandoni yoyote yule ataothubutu kutotii sheria hilo mpya mnamo disemba mosi. Wa...ata singemaliza "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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1/40 cannot change a law. They either abide or cease to exist "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/28/2011 Posts: 213
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Actually the issue here is not the amended rules or the fines,the problem is the police officers are not in their right state of mind and they will just storm out their offices and charge you for an offence you have not committed so it will either be the TKK he demands or the hefty fine,and by the time you get to the station you will have committed multiple offences.........his word against yours,so be the judge on who the looser will be
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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specky wrote:Actually the issue here is not the amended rules or the fines,the problem is the police officers are not in their right state of mind and they will just storm out their offices and charge you for an offence you have not committed so it will either be the TKK he demands or the hefty fine,and by the time you get to the station you will have committed multiple offences.........his word against yours,so be the judge on who the looser will be Or, with the fines and potential bribes being so high motorists would prefer to fight made up charges in court and the policemen who make up charges would realise that they would spend most of their time in courts and probably lose as well. Thus they would be discouraged from trumped up charges. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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It's time for our police to eat like never before. With these new laws police no longer need to fight for increments.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/28/2011 Posts: 213
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[/quote] Or, with the fines and potential bribes being so high motorists would prefer to fight made up charges in court and the policemen who make up charges would realise that they would spend most of their time in courts and probably lose as well. Thus they would be discouraged from trumped up charges.[/quote] How i wish this would be so... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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Elder wrote:specky wrote:Actually the issue here is not the amended rules or the fines,the problem is the police officers are not in their right state of mind and they will just storm out their offices and charge you for an offence you have not committed so it will either be the TKK he demands or the hefty fine,and by the time you get to the station you will have committed multiple offences.........his word against yours,so be the judge on who the looser will be Or, with the fines and potential bribes being so high motorists would prefer to fight made up charges in court and the policemen who make up charges would realise that they would spend most of their time in courts and probably lose as well. Thus they would be discouraged from trumped up charges. Guys, the REAL problem is the court system. It is just as corrupt,inept and in cahoots with the police. If I am sure that I will find justice in Court, then I can fight the corruption. As it is, the system effectively encourages corruption..Case in point, a cop wants to arrest( be bribed) by a mat driver, as passengers, you ask to be dropped in town. Cop enters mat and orders the driver to the station. Before you know it, you are all under arrest for not wearing seat belts!!!no one checked by the way! You imagine you can tell the magistrate your story...you are dead wrong, even the arresting officer does not show up so you 'kataa' are charged a hefty bond and told to come next month.. cop never shows up, magistrate does jerk about it and gives another date.. effectively you get tired or get caught up one day and you don't show up on time,,and PAP!!! Forfeit cash bail and warrant of arrest issued.. You are now a fugitive..... bruury useless system!!!! I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Member You have been a member since:: 6/26/2008 Posts: 190
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Or, with the fines and potential bribes being so high motorists would prefer to fight made up charges in court and the policemen who make up charges would realise that they would spend most of their time in courts and probably lose as well. Thus they would be discouraged from trumped up charges.[/quote] How i wish this would be so... [/quote] The amount of bail the court orders one to pay is usually an amount equivalent to the fine one pays if found guilty or even higher.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/25/2009 Posts: 973
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Is it true ma3 guys are stoning personal vehicles
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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bwenyenye wrote:Elder wrote:specky wrote:Actually the issue here is not the amended rules or the fines,the problem is the police officers are not in their right state of mind and they will just storm out their offices and charge you for an offence you have not committed so it will either be the TKK he demands or the hefty fine,and by the time you get to the station you will have committed multiple offences.........his word against yours,so be the judge on who the looser will be Or, with the fines and potential bribes being so high motorists would prefer to fight made up charges in court and the policemen who make up charges would realise that they would spend most of their time in courts and probably lose as well. Thus they would be discouraged from trumped up charges. Guys, the REAL problem is the court system. It is just as corrupt,inept and in cahoots with the police. If I am sure that I will find justice in Court, then I can fight the corruption. As it is, the system effectively encourages corruption..Case in point, a cop wants to arrest( be bribed) by a mat driver, as passengers, you ask to be dropped in town. Cop enters mat and orders the driver to the station. Before you know it, you are all under arrest for not wearing seat belts!!!no one checked by the way! You imagine you can tell the magistrate your story...you are dead wrong, even the arresting officer does not show up so you 'kataa' are charged a hefty bond and told to come next month.. cop never shows up, magistrate does jerk about it and gives another date.. effectively you get tired or get caught up one day and you don't show up on time,,and PAP!!! Forfeit cash bail and warrant of arrest issued.. You are now a fugitive..... bruury useless system!!!! If all these passengers decide to fight the charges and all give testimony in support of their respective defences it will be the words of fourteen people or more against the word of a single policeman. The policeman would lose. Then all those acquitted sue the policeman and AG for wrongful arrest etc. The above would mostly not happen because people would find it easy to pay a fine of say 1k and move on. But when the states are higher financially then this attitude might change. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Let us all follow the law and be good citizens. We are too used to looking the other way while Matatu misbehave. It is time for change and the time is now. Thieves
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