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IS HEAVEN A PHYSICAL PLACE OR A STATE OF MIND?
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Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . You don't have to go there and come back. You can speak from there. Like me.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2007 Posts: 709
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Quite a number of Atheist's in Wazua.
To me and many people,the answer to this issue is black and white - that there is God,there is good and and evil , heaven and hell,plus offcourse judgement day whose outcome is based on the choices we made whereas on earth.
No amount of satire, irony or discussion can convince one(God fearing christian) to think otherwise.
The truth is one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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tycho wrote:Tokyo wrote:Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . You don't have to go there and come back. You can speak from there. Like me. Hehehe! u amaze me @tycho. you are already in heaven right here on earth?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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faa wrote:Quite a number of Atheist's in Wazua.
To me and many people,the answer to this issue is black and white - that there is God,there is good and and evil , heaven and hell,plus offcourse judgement day whose outcome is based on the choices we made whereas on earth.
No amount of satire, irony or discussion can convince one(God fearing christian) to think otherwise.
The truth is one. You believe right just like everyone else. As you believe, so it is for you.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:Tokyo wrote:Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . You don't have to go there and come back. You can speak from there. Like me. Hehehe! u amaze me @tycho. you are already in heaven right here on earth? 'Heaven', 'earth'. These words have spiritual connotations. 'Earth' is the where being is estranged from 'God'. Heaven is when, and where Man and God are relating in the 'mutuality of goodness'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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tycho wrote:josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:Tokyo wrote:Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . You don't have to go there and come back. You can speak from there. Like me. Hehehe! u amaze me @tycho. you are already in heaven right here on earth? 'Heaven', 'earth'. These words have spiritual connotations. 'Earth' is the where being is estranged from 'God'. Heaven is when, and where Man and God are relating in the 'mutuality of goodness'. So, does heaven and earth happen at the same time and place but each happening to different people ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:Tokyo wrote:Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . You don't have to go there and come back. You can speak from there. Like me. Hehehe! u amaze me @tycho. you are already in heaven right here on earth? 'Heaven', 'earth'. These words have spiritual connotations. 'Earth' is the where being is estranged from 'God'. Heaven is when, and where Man and God are relating in the 'mutuality of goodness'. So, does heaven and earth happen at the same time and place but each happening to different people ? What is earth? A planet? Soil? Obviously, it is a perception. That's why sometimes 'earth' is inter-changed with 'world'. Earth is purely a set of relations with certain characteristics like 'individuality' and the like. Heaven is another and different set of relations, with different perceptions. In both cases, even the elements may appear as similar, but the relationships and attitudes are very different.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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Unfortunately, most atheists here have believed Socrates and Plato's half-truths.
Reality check: The motivation to discern between the right and the wrong inclines us to revere a deity. In self-consciousness, we are cognizant of a higher authority which brought us into being. The same self-consciousness abhors us from committing atrocities against fellow humans. Without reverence of a higher being,every activity we undertake would be righteous. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 282 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:Tokyo wrote:Nope. There is no heaven . Who has been there and came back? It's only a myth taken literally . You don't have to go there and come back. You can speak from there. Like me. Hehehe! u amaze me @tycho. you are already in heaven right here on earth? 'Heaven', 'earth'. These words have spiritual connotations. 'Earth' is the where being is estranged from 'God'. Heaven is when, and where Man and God are relating in the 'mutuality of goodness'. So, does heaven and earth happen at the same time and place but each happening to different people ? What is earth? A planet? Soil? Obviously, it is a perception. That's why sometimes 'earth' is inter-changed with 'world'. Earth is purely a set of relations with certain characteristics like 'individuality' and the like. Heaven is another and different set of relations, with different perceptions. In both cases, even the elements may appear as similar, but the relationships and attitudes are very different. @Tycho, 'Earth' and 'World' are as different as East and West. Earth refers to the physical and natural aspect. The world refers to man-made things and systems. Heaven is a real spiritual abode.
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