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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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@Tycho and ChessMaster
Hold on guys, I guess you're going too far, no one knows exactly whats going on with heaven and God stuff so before you talk as if you know, just remember we know you don't know.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Drunkard wrote:@Tycho and ChessMaster
Hold on guys, I guess you're going too far, no one knows exactly whats going on with heaven and God stuff so before you talk as if you know, just remember we know you don't know. @Drunkard, if what you are saying is true, then freedom for the individual is a lie, and you, the arbiter. But on what grounds does your judgment stand? There lies the contradiction. So if your assertion is true, then you can only be silent! But you have spoken. In my case I speak, in order to find myself. Is it right for you to stop me from finding myself? There's the other reason as to why your assertions cannot be correct.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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bigbossman wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:I think you've put it perfectly,we find identity through Him.For me I find it fascinating that Christ worked with wood all along and ended up carrying one. The finding of identity through the Man God occurs not by reincarnation but by transformation of the individual as he shares in the passion, death and resurrection of the Man God. Or, the word of the prophet is supposed to transform the hearer. This means that Man can build a new world of peace and reign of justice if only he hears and sees the light of transformation. We have founded true revolution. You are quite an apologist. Who are u speaking for? I am speaking for the whole of humanity. I am speaking for both the oppressor and the oppressed. We are living at a critical moment in both the national and international level. And I can only do this as my humble contribution in building a better and stronger world. Surely it is time the suffering in the middle East and the rest of the world comes to an end! The individual, must find peace and harmony, and the peasant, his voice.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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@Drunkard - I know I don't know that's why I'm here discussing to get to know.Otherwise if I did,why would I be here? I can't say anything about heaven but for me a discussion in pursuit of truth and knowledge about God(independent of your religion) isn't harmful. @bigbossman - We are talking about Jesus the light and life and the bible.At this point we're on perception of truth its effects. @tycho - I like you brought up reincarnation. Buddha said that the only way to stop reincarnation is to learn the truth and be freed. I find this same theme across religions,truth and love stand firm in the middle.As the bible puts it God is Love. Back to the point,that's the message I also believe in. If man was to hear the word and see the light,as you eloquently put if light of transformation,we would become something more. Even the bible says we become the sons of God. Interesting note,have you noticed the two commandments Jesus left us are a summary of the ten commandments? Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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@Tycho.
Hey sir/Maam, freedom for individual? find yourself? Oooh come on! The way you are articulating these issues sound more like someone trying to redefine the meaning of life to fit what they want.
Where does freedom come in picture here? unless freedom mean something else otherwise we're not talking about freedom, infact the constitution take care of that!
Find yourself? I think you're taking this spiritual thing too serious, there is no finding one's unless you're a recovering acoholic or you're in half-way drug rehab house.
On the side note, I just purchased a Kshs 20,000 ticket to attend a chrismas play all the money goes to charities for sick children. You can spend the whole day talking about Jesus and God but until you step in and help meet the challanges of today, when the day come and it turn out that heaven indeed is there then you will probably miss the tickets because you spend all your time finding yourself!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Drunkard wrote:@Tycho.
Hey sir/Maam, freedom for individual? find yourself? Oooh come on! The way you are articulating these issues sound more like someone trying to redefine the meaning of life to fit what they want.
Where does freedom come in picture here? unless freedom mean something else otherwise we're not talking about freedom, infact the constitution take care of that!
Find yourself? I think you're taking this spiritual thing too serious, there is no finding one's unless you're a recovering acoholic or you're in half-way drug rehab house. How then can one define life, if not as he wants? That is the essence of freedom. Choice! Man has been given this right and power. Clearly you neither believe or know that the individual and freedom exist. And then you have now become my spokesperson. Can you see yourself? No. You can only see me! Indeed you have every 'right' to say what you are saying. So far, you haven't given arguments to show what you are saying is true. Why? As for the doing part, I don't even have to mention what I do for others. It just follows my being.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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It is true,actions speak louder than words. But yet the bible also says that we all serve different purposes in the body of Christ. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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Hey, you will be surprised to know that heaven is actually defined by you or rather you think up heaven and it becomes exactly how u see it in your mind . When you finally die u might meet up other fanatics(if u are one) like tycho in one quarter still finding themselves and trying to become Man God or u might go to the buddhist quarter waiting to be reincarnated into another life. Or you might might just meet up with your whole family there and make your own home and heaven there. The possibilities are many and u create everything there with your thoughts. Imagine u can even choose to be reborn again here on earth even if you are not a buddhist or hindu and of course if u believe in angels you will see them there in heaven. LIFE IS SO GOOD
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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bigbossman wrote:Hey, you will be surprised to know that heaven is actually defined by you or rather you think up heaven and it becomes exactly how u see it in your mind . When you finally die u might meet up other fanatics(if u are one) like tycho in one quarter still finding themselves and trying to become Man God or u might go to the buddhist quarter waiting to be reincarnated into another life. Or you might might just meet up with your whole family there and make your own home and heaven there. The possibilities are many and u create everything there with your thoughts. Imagine u can even choose to be reborn again here on earth even if you are not a buddhist or hindu and of course if u believe in angels you will see them there in heaven. @bigbossman, Why should one construct a picture of heaven? Moreover, if 'heaven' is abstract, why should the word exist in the first place?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/14/2012 Posts: 201 Location: nairobi
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tycho wrote:bigbossman wrote:Hey, you will be surprised to know that heaven is actually defined by you or rather you think up heaven and it becomes exactly how u see it in your mind . When you finally die u might meet up other fanatics(if u are one) like tycho in one quarter still finding themselves and trying to become Man God or u might go to the buddhist quarter waiting to be reincarnated into another life. Or you might might just meet up with your whole family there and make your own home and heaven there. The possibilities are many and u create everything there with your thoughts. Imagine u can even choose to be reborn again here on earth even if you are not a buddhist or hindu and of course if u believe in angels you will see them there in heaven. @bigbossman, Why should one construct a picture of heaven? Moreover, if 'heaven' is abstract, why should the word exist in the first place? Word or world? LIFE IS SO GOOD
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