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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Public schools insist that the child must have celebrated the sixth birthday when joining class one. Now, working with the 8-4-4 system, you notice that such a child will finish form 4 just after turning 18. She can then get an ID immediately after KCSE...ready register in any college/university. So if a child starts baby class below age 3, there is a CHANCE that by the time she is supposed to join university, she won't be old enough to get an ID and therefor won't be allowed to register! OK, I know that at the moment public universities are running behind schedule, but you never know how the situation will be 15 years from today. ACtually, its not just the universities... Many serious primary schools that are in high demand are using the 6yr age limit to filter the applicants... check out Strathmore school, for example... So, the question you have to ask yourself is: do you really want to block your child's chances by rushing her to school early? The solution is to put her in a play group starting in the middle of the year; then wait till she turns three and enroll her in nursery school proper. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:Public schools insist that the child must have celebrated the sixth birthday when joining class one.
Now, working with the 8-4-4 system, you notice that such a child will finish form 4 just after turning 18. She can then get an ID immediately after KCSE...ready register in any college/university.
So if a child starts baby class below age 3, there is a CHANCE that by the time she is supposed to join university, she won't be old enough to get an ID and therefor won't be allowed to register!
OK, I know that at the moment public universities are running behind schedule, but you never know how the situation will be 15 years from today. ACtually, its not just the universities...
Many serious primary schools that are in high demand are using the 6yr age limit to filter the applicants... check out Strathmore school, for example...
So, the question you have to ask yourself is: do you really want to block your child's chances by rushing her to school early?
The solution is to put her in a play group starting in the middle of the year; then wait till she turns three and enroll her in nursery school proper. Well said!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2008 Posts: 437
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Interesting @Mukiha. Am all for kids being allowed to be kids but am wondering whether possession of an ID is now a requirement for joining college/university?
I went to [public] school in shags where I guess the requirement to have turned 6 to join class 1 was either not in place or not enforced. So I ended up joining THE before my 18th birthday - and by joining I mean got admitted and reported. Indeed the only hitch was when I went to collect 'Boom' and I had to carry my birth cert to convince the local KCB officers. BTW, I was in the first 8-4-4 lot so there was no Module II....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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mukiha wrote:Public schools insist that the child must have celebrated the sixth birthday when joining class one.
Now, working with the 8-4-4 system, you notice that such a child will finish form 4 just after turning 18. She can then get an ID immediately after KCSE...ready register in any college/university.
So if a child starts baby class below age 3, there is a CHANCE that by the time she is supposed to join university, she won't be old enough to get an ID and therefor won't be allowed to register!
OK, I know that at the moment public universities are running behind schedule, but you never know how the situation will be 15 years from today. ACtually, its not just the universities...
Many serious primary schools that are in high demand are using the 6yr age limit to filter the applicants... check out Strathmore school, for example...
So, the question you have to ask yourself is: do you really want to block your child's chances by rushing her to school early?
The solution is to put her in a play group starting in the middle of the year; then wait till she turns three and enroll her in nursery school proper. Very few Kenyan middle class that I know of can talk like this, direct to the point.  Hii story ya a 2.25 years old kid waking up at 4am and is at the bus station by 4.45am waiting to board a school bus is the worst scene I always see on our estates in Nairobi, in fact worse than the "maajabu ya yaya" In all in the name of keeping up with the joneses!!!  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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mukiha wrote:Public schools insist that the child must have celebrated the sixth birthday when joining class one.
Now, working with the 8-4-4 system, you notice that such a child will finish form 4 just after turning 18. She can then get an ID immediately after KCSE...ready register in any college/university.
So if a child starts baby class below age 3, there is a CHANCE that by the time she is supposed to join university, she won't be old enough to get an ID and therefor won't be allowed to register!
OK, I know that at the moment public universities are running behind schedule, but you never know how the situation will be 15 years from today. ACtually, its not just the universities...
Many serious primary schools that are in high demand are using the 6yr age limit to filter the applicants... check out Strathmore school, for example...
So, the question you have to ask yourself is: do you really want to block your child's chances by rushing her to school early?
The solution is to put her in a play group starting in the middle of the year; then wait till she turns three and enroll her in nursery school proper. they can use a passport to register for university
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/18/2011 Posts: 459
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Impunity wrote:The day she will be able to successfully use a pit latrine.
I joined class one quite mature and straight thinking. I will be Investing in a number of Pit Latrines across the estates of our cities for those who wish to check if their kids r ready for School. Interviews r to be carried out on first come first serve basis. Hurry while stocks last. On a serious note, the movie "Daddy day care" gives some ideas of what would be useful for a kid to learn. I.e if the kid goes to school at a young age let it be a school that knows how to keep it simple.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Wait till our universities start applying the 18-year rule for admission then problems will ensue.... Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Men, take control and take your kinds to school early enough. Dont fear paying school fees! Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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mjuaji wa stocks wrote:mapozi wrote:famooz wrote:I have always wondered what kids go to school to do at 2.5 years or even 3. And as someone has pointed out,kids should play....that is the main occupation of children. I see kids just being introduced to formal learning at such an early age,and then they have to be on top of the class because they are given exams,then after that,they start cramming and going for tuition on holidays and the cycle continues.@ mapozi,why do you want your kid to recite anything now :(
Or am I missing a point here? Famooz, its not that I want her to learn math etc right now, its just that there are no kids for her to interact with in the neighbour hood therefore I would want her to be around other kids to develop some skills e.g. social and I wouldn't mind her singing and stuff like that but I really don't want to stress her with formal education. Would it be possible for me to take her to play group then skip baby class and go to nursery. Anyone with experience out there? I advice that she goes after 4 years of age - atakua amejua kutumia choo -- otherwise it will be difficult for the baby and i dont think teachers will give attention akitaka kwenda haja .... i realized this and i decided to have two babies wakiwa wamufuatana ...... ili mmoja asiboweke .... worked good for us .... with fisrt born 4 years and second born 2 yrs; they are well knit and play together bila shida ---- hakuna kuboweka.. I totally agree with you, a three year old child is still a toddler. I also pity those small children below 5 who are forced by their parents to wake up at 5 am waende shule......i think at that age school should be between 9 and 12 noon kwisha!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/21/2011 Posts: 119
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I have decided to hold it off till she turns 3(April 2013) and then take her to baby class in May hence she should be joining nursery in January 2014 when she will be 3.75 years. What are your thoughts on this?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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TAZ wrote:mjuaji wa stocks wrote:mapozi wrote:famooz wrote:I have always wondered what kids go to school to do at 2.5 years or even 3. And as someone has pointed out,kids should play....that is the main occupation of children. I see kids just being introduced to formal learning at such an early age,and then they have to be on top of the class because they are given exams,then after that,they start cramming and going for tuition on holidays and the cycle continues.@ mapozi,why do you want your kid to recite anything now :(
Or am I missing a point here? Famooz, its not that I want her to learn math etc right now, its just that there are no kids for her to interact with in the neighbour hood therefore I would want her to be around other kids to develop some skills e.g. social and I wouldn't mind her singing and stuff like that but I really don't want to stress her with formal education. Would it be possible for me to take her to play group then skip baby class and go to nursery. Anyone with experience out there? I advice that she goes after 4 years of age - atakua amejua kutumia choo -- otherwise it will be difficult for the baby and i dont think teachers will give attention akitaka kwenda haja .... i realized this and i decided to have two babies wakiwa wamufuatana ...... ili mmoja asiboweke .... worked good for us .... with fisrt born 4 years and second born 2 yrs; they are well knit and play together bila shida ---- hakuna kuboweka.. I totally agree with you, a three year old child is still a toddler. I also pity those small children below 5 who are forced by their parents to wake up at 5 am waende shule......i think at that age school should be between 9 and 12 noon kwisha! All of you in this post above: what age did you take your children to school? BTW: there is no school that starts at 5am to necessitate kids waking up at 4am. The early rising has only to do with the distance that the school is from home. Therefore the kid has to wake up early in order to make it on time... And I agree; that's unfair! Nursery scholars should go to nearby schools only. If there is none in your neighbourhood, then you MUST move to a place that has schools. Mine went to school after 3rd birthday. The school was five minutes by school van from home. they used to sleep until 7:00am (having slept at 8pm!!). NB-they'd wake themselves up! Then get ready to leave by 7:45am and be in school by 7:55....sing and dance for 20min then go to class at 8:15am Sure, that is as relaxed as can be.... Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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TAZ wrote:I totally agree with you, a three year old child is still a toddler. I also pity those small children below 5 who are forced by their parents to wake up at 5 am waende shule......i think at that age school should be between 9 and 12 noon kwisha! Now you'll leave a 3yr old at home doing what? Watching Teletabies and Dora? Learning mother tongue from the mboch? I have a son and I can tell you without a doubt that the best age to start is 3. I think most are assuming that they go to hit the books immediately, but they start with play group which will help them learn to socialize. The worst thing in my opinion is leaving the kid with the mboch, they will gain nothing while they are already in the age where they start discovering, exploring stuff and putting their minds to use and that's why they are so destructive at that age.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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2012 wrote:TAZ wrote:I totally agree with you, a three year old child is still a toddler. I also pity those small children below 5 who are forced by their parents to wake up at 5 am waende shule......i think at that age school should be between 9 and 12 noon kwisha! Now you'll leave a 3yr old at home doing what? Watching Teletabies and Dora? Learning mother tongue from the mboch? I have a son and I can tell you without a doubt that the best age to start is 3. I think most are assuming that they go to hit the books immediately, but they start with play group which will help them learn to socialize. The worst thing in my opinion is leaving the kid with the mboch, they will gain nothing while they are already in the age where they start discovering, exploring stuff and putting their minds to use and that's why they are so destructive at that age. from the earliest age a kid benefits more when in the company of other kids, they start learning life’s skills early on - at 3 a kid should be enrolled in school especially in urban areas, where the alternative is locking up a kid in the house
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223
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ALL these arguments including my own opinion are from the typical Kenyan middle class. What is the opinion of the upper class on when they take their children to school. Maybe a case study not a theory. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/13/2011 Posts: 660
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BGL wrote:ALL these arguments including my own opinion are from the typical Kenyan middle class.
What is the opinion of the upper class on when they take their children to school. Maybe a case study not a theory. i know a lawyer who hired a full-time qualified teacher for his 2 year old son. 50k monthly
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Impunity wrote:The day she will be able to successfully use a pit latrine.
At least that is how I was measured and I never attended those those numerous baby schools, nursery, never repeated any class, pass-over class 3, never had a running nose,never wore a sweater, was position one entire my schooling life,never niniod at form 2  ,never tarmacked, never got bullied, never said "me my mother/dad..." while storying, never fought a girl ,never arrogant, never ate ceralac... I joined class one quite mature and straight thinking. You've been position one all your life? Boss, you have my respect. So when is the right form/class/age to ninio? I think there is a lot of guessing here. You might want the advice of a professional, a knowledgeable teacher and/or child psychologist after observing your young one and home environment
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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mapozi wrote:I have decided to hold it off till she turns 3(April 2013) and then take her to baby class in May hence she should be joining nursery in January 2014 when she will be 3.75 years. What are your thoughts on this? Why do you keep on counting your child's age even to decimal points? You are so paranoid about this school thing! At 3.75 years consider your child is 3 years, wachana na hizo decimal things plus we dont a decmal human being. Your child will not die if she daent go to school at the age of akina joneses.  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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mapozi wrote:I have decided to hold it off till she turns 3(April 2013) and then take her to baby class in May hence she should be joining nursery in January 2014 when she will be 3.75 years. What are your thoughts on this? Take your kid to school in Jan...she will learn how compete & to live with others early after all what do they learn in those classes apart from singing, talking (English, Swa) and playing? In the afternoons its nap time. This is good for the kid. Its better than watching Naija movies with the help. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Its futile to take a 2 yr old to school and expect much learning to happen. Same for a 3yr old. Whatever a 3 year old takes to learn in 1 year, a 5yr old will learn in less than a term. I think its a waste of time and resources taking a child younger than 4yrs to school. By the way, the age at which one starts formal education has no correlation with the final outcome at form 4 and beyond. In my opinion, I will relax, ensure the child is in an enviroment where structured play is the main activity and only begin numbers and letters after 4yrs. If you ask child educators, a child below five yrs is supposed to be introduced to the age appropriate class not to a class based on some 'exam'. All things held constant and with just a little help, a five yr old will catch up pretty fast with another five year old who started going to school at 3 yrs. In Finland, you start school at 7yrs http://www.businessinsid...tion-school-2011-12?op=1They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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5 yearz... possunt quia posse videntur
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