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Stock below 2008/2009 GFC panic price crash
hisah
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:18:34 PM
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Below is the roll call of the disgraced counters 5yrs later...

Drums rolling and strobe lights for effect:

1. Access Kenya (ACCS)
2. BOC Gases (BOC)
3. CFC - Note: spinned off its insurance arm
4. EA cables (CABL)
5. EA portland cement (PORT)
6. Eveready (EVRD)
7. Express Kenya (XPRS)
8. Kengen (KEGN)
9. Kenya Airways (KQ)
10. National bank (NBK)
11. Olympia Capital (OCH)
12. Sameer Africa (FIRE)
13. Standard Group (SGL)
14. Total Kenya (TOTL)

If one had invested long term in the above counters without averaging down, that equity portfolio would still be in the red 5yrs later! So how long term is long term?

This is why unit trusts/mutual funds will never disclose what they hold in their portfolios... The pandora box has to be kept as far away from the limelight as possible lest redemptions bankrupt these safe 'investment' vehicles...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:21:18 PM
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a surprising list. time tells the true story.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
young
#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:55:33 PM
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What of

Mumias Sugar ?
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hisah
#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:42:10 PM
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young wrote:
What of

Mumias Sugar ?

MSC crashed to 3.40/- a level that has not been touched since 2008/2009 panic. Unbelievable...!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:35:44 PM
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The list is longer than this. Bamburi, Car and General, HFCK, etc etc
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mukiri
#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:49:35 PM
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hisah wrote:
young wrote:
What of

Mumias Sugar ?

MSC crashed to 3.40/- a level that has not been touched since 2008/2009 panic. Unbelievable...!


Mumias, A foreseeable complete crash? Is the company winding up?

KQ can now only go up, after the retrenchments and huge loss, they've hit rock bottom.

Proverbs 19:21
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:47:08 PM
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murchr wrote:
The list is longer than this. Bamburi, Car and General, HFCK, etc etc
I don't have the data but has the list & the above 3 stocks been adjusted for splits, bonuses & extra-ordinary dividends, if any?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:47:18 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
The list is longer than this. Bamburi, Car and General, HFCK, etc etc
I don't have the data but has the list & the above 3 stocks been adjusted for splits, bonuses & extra-ordinary dividends, if any?


Can you recollect? 2007 to now i cannot recall any.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:09:51 PM
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murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
The list is longer than this. Bamburi, Car and General, HFCK, etc etc
I don't have the data but has the list & the above 3 stocks been adjusted for splits, bonuses & extra-ordinary dividends, if any?


Can you recollect? 2007 to now i cannot recall any.
I think C&G had a bonus. HFCK had a Rights Issue. I don't have the data. Of course, if someone without the requisite data for KenolKobil may assume it is a laggard but there was a 10:1 split somewhere...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2012 8:00:25 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
The list is longer than this. Bamburi, Car and General, HFCK, etc etc
I don't have the data but has the list & the above 3 stocks been adjusted for splits, bonuses & extra-ordinary dividends, if any?


Can you recollect? 2007 to now i cannot recall any.
I think C&G had a bonus. HFCK had a Rights Issue. I don't have the data. Of course, if someone without the requisite data for KenolKobil may assume it is a laggard but there was a 10:1 split somewhere...

Splits & bonuses were factored in. @murchr those 3 that you mention are not part of the line up.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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