Gal, this is a bit insensitive. No one is SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE A WELL LAID AMBUSH. No one. So, if no one is supposed to survive, how would anybody know in advance?

Thing is there were non-Turkanas, supposedly South Sudaneses. Will we cross borders to our new brothers? How will they take this? I've worked in South Sudan, those boys don't joke! And they've been at war for sometime, another somalia? Kony is also rumored to be holed there.. This will be a movie. horror movie!

...you cannot compare Kenya to Israel its like comparing a vx to a tuk tuk,we are not a war like nation...and this guys are wasting our kdf they should be doing something constructive elsewhere...

Gal, this is a bit insensitive. No one is SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE A WELL LAID AMBUSH. No one. So, if no one is supposed to survive, how would anybody know in advance?[/quote]

No there are anti-ambush drills. and they work so well, ask KDF how many ambushes they had in somalia and how they managed to counter the same. Time spent in Recce and int is not time wasted.

This bandits should be dealt with like matakwei, this are cold blooded killers.

I totally disagree the buck0 stops with the police commish,if am not wrong the team was made upof a combined force of Anti-stock theft,regular and adminstration police,Rapid response unit and The GSU...From wikipedia it says this about the latter...

The General Service Unit (GSU) is a paramilitary wing of the Kenyan Military and Kenyan Police, consisting of highly trained police officers and special forces soldiers.Having been in existence since the late 1940s, the GSU has fought in a number of conflicts in and around Kenya, including the 1963 - 1969 Shifta War and the 1982 Kenyan coup.[2] The Kenyan police outlines the objectives of the GSU as follows, to deal with situations affecting internal security throughout the Republic, to be an operational force that is not intended for use on duties of a permanent static nature, and primarily, to be a reserve force to deal with special operations and civil disorders.[3]

That Wafula guy rightly put it the Police commish should set out guidelines as to how such missions should be undertaken,there should be a rule book on such things,surely if wikipedia things of the GSU as highly trained operatives then the whole planning of the recovery of the herd was poorly done from the top,rem its not the first time this has happened..the number of cops killed this year is alarming lets get the IG and we move forward,have better plans and policies for the future...its not KDFs work kukimbizana na wezi wa mifugo its degrading to them...

@Guka, kwani kenya tuiko na technicals i thought they are a somali brand...??
Did you know the families of the cops killed will most likely be kicked out of police lines? And those injured badly, will have to foot a chunk of their medical bills from their pockets - that is, in addition to losing their jobs if maimed vibaya?
Here's my 2 cents:
1) Establish a permanent security post (think KDF) there, not just sending the army periodically there. Heck, make it their training ground - suguta valley problem will be sorted out forever,
2)Police Commanders i/c samburu ops - must appear before an oversight body (Parliamentary or other credible one) for carelessly sending rookies into harms' way while unprepared. They must be held accountable. Itere too - there's no way such a massive contingent of > 100 cops (plus GSU+Rapid Response Unit)go into an op without Vigilance Hse being aware,huh?
3)Get cops armoured vehicles (they have started manufacturing the
Mamba one here)for those in high risk areas NOW.
4)Mob unanswered qstns: why did gava take too long to rescue those guys? the bandits even had time to come in a second wave and finish off survivors, how now!? No one even knew how many cops went into the ops, surely now...so there ws no central monitoring of the ops and so where was the director of Ops at vigilance hse?
5) Forget all that fancy talk about police reforms - just immediately implement these in the short term:
- give cops a forensic lab
- let police choppers not be for vip transport,it should have
been for aerial support in the suguta ops
- release cops from these silly nanny jobs they hold with
wadosi i.e pushing trolley at s/markets, drivers - ni sheer
misuse of cops
- give all cops who go on patrols bullet-proof vests now.

then talk of long term reforms like life insurance, housing, remuneration.

Guka, Intel, who are technicals?

I shall insist, Suguta and some other hotspots in Kenya are no police territories. Sad but true. Those are technically battlefields, police dont go to battle, ideally. Let the NSC get their stuff together, and be more prudent when allocating security operations. The force tasked should be equal to the task.Police cannot, and will never make it in Suguta, n if they do, it shall be sheer luck and God's grace.

Yaani hata Wikipedia inajua Suguta Valley ni nini... "The valley is used as a hide-out by Pokot and Turkana cattle rustlers. It is considered a "no go" region by the police due to the extremely harsh environment and familiarity of the rustlers with the terrain."