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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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murchr wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:Spot on. KQ does have poor customer service. Most of the staff are nonchalant and apathetic. The CEO has ridden over many storms including two air crashes, that cld have deflated the business basing on a relative small fleet size. He deserves kudos for some things but his sunset days are now here. New floor price of KES 10 is in the offing over the next few days. No one will sell below KES 10. The stock market doesn't like words like no one, or never Wanjiku's may be the rest will hold on. UNTRUE. Non-Wanjikus (Read seasoned investors) who got in sub-13 will cut losses and sell below 10 if push comes to shove Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Pesa Nane wrote:murchr wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:Spot on. KQ does have poor customer service. Most of the staff are nonchalant and apathetic. The CEO has ridden over many storms including two air crashes, that cld have deflated the business basing on a relative small fleet size. He deserves kudos for some things but his sunset days are now here. New floor price of KES 10 is in the offing over the next few days. No one will sell below KES 10. The stock market doesn't like words like no one, or never Wanjiku's may be the rest will hold on. UNTRUE. Non-Wanjikus (Read seasoned investors) who got in sub-13 will cut losses and sell below 10 if push comes to shove Hakuna...lets keep watching, so far Mr. Mkt hasnt indicated that, infact more "seasoned investors" are getting in. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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Ms Mkenya wrote:This is the best time to buy.. I have tried write up an advisory on this but i keep laughing!!  Anyway...consistently declining operating margins since 2002..with an exception of one...as in ONE year..has finally taken it's toll....until operating margin turns positive...and 3 years of consistent margin growth with average of 15% per year..KQ still remains a "darling" crap stock. ..if you buy..please buy because you are a patriot..nothing else. #mkenya daima..to the grave..even if grave is dug by a kenyan management. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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I shudder to say it but KQ is will be a prime candidate for government bail out within the next 5 years. Amboseli, Samburu etc...why buy old planes and paint them a new yawa, this is not our sandak toyota premio eti nobody will notice.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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http://www.businessdaily.../-/n1wocvz/-/index.html
Very interesting read. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,556 Location: nairobi
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while KQ struggles in its death bed, look at how its competitor grows.. www.reuters.com/article/...ts-idUSLNE8AB01V20121112
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/12/2012 Posts: 92
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ProverB wrote:Ms Mkenya wrote:This is the best time to buy.. I have tried write up an advisory on this but i keep laughing!! Anyway...consistently declining operating margins since 2002..with an exception of one...as in ONE year..has finally taken it's toll....until operating margin turns positive...and 3 years of consistent margin growth with average of 15% per year..KQ still remains a "darling" crap stock. ..if you buy..please buy because you are a patriot..nothing else. #mkenya daima..to the grave..even if grave is dug by a kenyan management. hahaha......nice one jammo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Pesa Nane wrote:murchr wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:Spot on. KQ does have poor customer service. Most of the staff are nonchalant and apathetic. The CEO has ridden over many storms including two air crashes, that cld have deflated the business basing on a relative small fleet size. He deserves kudos for some things but his sunset days are now here. New floor price of KES 10 is in the offing over the next few days. No one will sell below KES 10. The stock market doesn't like words like no one, or never Wanjiku's may be the rest will hold on. UNTRUE. Non-Wanjikus (Read seasoned investors) who got in sub-13 will cut losses and sell below 10 if push comes to shove @murchr. Its almost impossible to predict what investors (great or small) will do. This same stock tanked from 50.00 to 30.00 in 2010-2011. Who thought of such a sell off? that cant have been all attributed to wanjiku. Investors will shock us time and time again (whether up or down) The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/12/2012 Posts: 92
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Aguytrying wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:murchr wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:Spot on. KQ does have poor customer service. Most of the staff are nonchalant and apathetic. The CEO has ridden over many storms including two air crashes, that cld have deflated the business basing on a relative small fleet size. He deserves kudos for some things but his sunset days are now here. New floor price of KES 10 is in the offing over the next few days. No one will sell below KES 10. The stock market doesn't like words like no one, or never Wanjiku's may be the rest will hold on. UNTRUE. Non-Wanjikus (Read seasoned investors) who got in sub-13 will cut losses and sell below 10 if push comes to shove @murchr. Its almost impossible to predict what investors (great or small) will do. This same stock tanked from 50.00 to 30.00 in 2010-2011. Who thought of such a sell off? that cant have been all attributed to wanjiku. Investors will shock us time and time again (whether up or down) It is very easy to predict what wanjiku would do.she suffers from predisposition effect which means she holds on to losses hoping prices will bounce up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Aguytrying wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:murchr wrote:Aguytrying wrote:obiero wrote:Spot on. KQ does have poor customer service. Most of the staff are nonchalant and apathetic. The CEO has ridden over many storms including two air crashes, that cld have deflated the business basing on a relative small fleet size. He deserves kudos for some things but his sunset days are now here. New floor price of KES 10 is in the offing over the next few days. No one will sell below KES 10. The stock market doesn't like words like no one, or never Wanjiku's may be the rest will hold on. UNTRUE. Non-Wanjikus (Read seasoned investors) who got in sub-13 will cut losses and sell below 10 if push comes to shove @murchr. Its almost impossible to predict what investors (great or small) will do. This same stock tanked from 50.00 to 30.00 in 2010-2011. Who thought of such a sell off? that cant have been all attributed to wanjiku. Investors will shock us time and time again (whether up or down) 50 is Kidogo, there was a time it hit 100/- (2005 or 06). The big mboys (GOK, KLM, and IFC) will not step out just yet, although It all depends on how well KQ will sell their product, improve their image and get their hse in order. Wanjiku's behavior is well known, u watch it as it approaches 13..even safcom is now stuck at 4.80 and the real guru hisah was predicting 5/- "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:u watch it as it approaches 13..even safcom is now stuck at 4.80 How can any rational investor compare KQ and safcom?? I also heard a certain investor trying to compare KQ to etihad or emirates.. HOW!!??  The long term price movement for KQ is down down down down down!! As i have said before debt, oil prices & competition will crush this company's earnings badly.. Anyone buying or owning KQ with the available information in the market is naive to the wrath that airlines have unleashed worldwide time & time again! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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guru267 wrote:murchr wrote:u watch it as it approaches 13..even safcom is now stuck at 4.80 How can any rational investor compare KQ and safcom?? I also heard a certain investor trying to compare KQ to etihad or emirates.. HOW!!?? The long term price movement for KQ is down down down down down!! As i have said before debt, oil prices & competition will crush this company's earnings badly.. Anyone buying or owning KQ with the available information in the market is naive to the wrath that airlines have unleashed worldwide time & time again! English is trully ur 2nd or 3rd language "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Emirates offers fare cuts to Kenyan travellers - http://goo.gl/ROZuo$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2012 Posts: 136
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As a shareholder and regular on kq I must say they are good at what they do...expensive but that expected Kenya isn't cheap to do business in. Watch out for fast jet but cutting away the frills with their low cost arm may increase numbers and revenues ...profits sijuii...I reckon KQ can fix its problems ...it needs help in its finances and I don't mean take more loans...quality is there , customer satisfaction needs work on...cabin crews need to be more friendly ...emirates isn't all that much better
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2012 Posts: 136
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But Cathay pacific , Turkish and Singapore definitely are
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Qantas cuts ties with Tourism Australia - http://bit.ly/Y3EUTl
Quote:Qantas Airways chief executive Alan Joyce has defended cutting ties with, and funding to, Tourism Australia while its chairman Geoff Dixon was plotting to buy into the airline Enterprise corruption classic. Btw what has happened to CMC, the gossip died out... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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mazingira wrote:As a shareholder and regular on kq I must say they are good at what they do...expensive but that expected Kenya isn't cheap to do business in. Watch out for fast jet but cutting away the frills with their low cost arm may increase numbers and revenues ...profits sijuii...I reckon KQ can fix its problems ...it needs help in its finances and I don't mean take more loans...quality is there , customer satisfaction needs work on...cabin crews need to be more friendly ...emirates isn't all that much better mazingira wrote:But Cathay pacific , Turkish and Singapore definitely are @mazingira, you loose us. First you say KQ are good at what they do BUT then again 1. are expensive, 2. needs help with finances, 3. profit hujui 4. customer satisfaction need work 5. cabin crews need to be more friendly 6. Cathay Pacific, Turkish and Singapore definitely better than KQ. All in one post. I am left wondering what is it that they (KQ) do and 'do good'?? Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2012 Posts: 136
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KQ are good no doubt but they could learn from the others , KQ are expensive compared to rivals but have loyalty...I blame the Kenyan work environment for them being expensive . The low cost arm is where I'm iffy about profits ...I don't know who their number crunchers are but losses are bitter for all.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2012 Posts: 136
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All travel firms are suffering look at this
Thomas cook used to supply the 2nd largest number of tourists to Mombasa ...
Thomas Cook has been selling off some of its assets to reduce its debts
Struggling travel group Thomas Cook has reported widening annual losses due to reduced capacity and higher fuel costs.
Pre-tax losses for the year to the end of September were £485.3m, up from £398.2m the previous year.
Revenue fell to £9.5bn from £9.8bn in what the company described as a "difficult trading environment".
Despite the loss, the company said the final quarter had been a "major improvement" on a year ago and added it was "optimistic about the future".
"These results reflect the major issues that Thomas Cook faced last year, but they mask the material improvement that we made in the fourth quarter," said Harriet Green, who took over as chief executive in the summer.
The company also said it had reduced its debts by more than £100m over the period, to £788m from £891m.
Lower bookings
Thomas Cook said plans to stabilise the business in the UK were now complete, with the closure of 149 shops contributing to significant cost savings and an improvement in profit margins.
Bookings in the UK during the year were down 2%, however, while they fell by 9% in west Europe and by 3% in north Europe. Bookings in Germany were up by 9%.
The company has struggled with high debt and the wider downturn in the global travel sector.
It got into particular difficulty last year when the unrest in the Middle East and North Africa affected its operations in Egypt and Tunisia.
In May this year, the group secured a £1.4bn refinancing package, giving it a further three years to repay its debts.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Fastjet launches in Africa - http://www.telegraph.co....launches-in-Africa.html
I can see FastJet went commercial today in Tz - https://www.facebook.com/fastjet
https://www.flightglobal...cheduled-flights-379587/$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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