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Impunity
#111 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:02:46 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
arkard wrote:
Most of us are thieves, potentially. It's just that the opportunity has never presented itself. And until integrity as a value is taken seriously and instilled on all everywhere: in our homes, church, mosques and schools,corruption is not reducing any time soon...


Sad. It starts when a baby is offered a bribe (sweet) to finish his foodSad


Thats is soft bribe, I think its allowed just like tips.
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Elder
#112 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:39:54 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
arkard wrote:
Most of us are thieves, potentially. It's just that the opportunity has never presented itself. And until integrity as a value is taken seriously and instilled on all everywhere: in our homes, church, mosques and schools,corruption is not reducing any time soon...


Sad. It starts when a baby is offered a bribe (sweet) to finish his foodSad

You may as well add salaries and employment bonuses on your list of briberies while still at it.
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masukuma
#113 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 12:26:05 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
An aging king woke up one day acutely aware of his own mortality. He had no son, and his was a culture where only a male heir could take his place.
He decided that he would adopt a son who then could take his place, but he insisted that such an adopted son must be extraordinary in every sense of the word. He considered each of his advisors and relatives in turn, but found them wanting.
So he launched a competition in his kingdom, open to all boys, no matter what their background. Ten boys made it to the very top. There was little to separate these boys in terms of intelligence and physical attributes and capabilities.
The king said to them, 'I have one last test and whoever comes top will become my adopted son and heir to my throne.' Then he said, 'This kingdom depends solely on agriculture, so the king must know how to cultivate plants. Here are seven seeds of grain for each of you. Take them home. Plant and nurture them for six weeks. At the end of six weeks, we shall see who has done the best job of cultivating the grain. That person will be my son and my heir. '
The boys took their seeds and hurried home. Each got a pot, prepared soil, and sowed his seeds. There was much excitement in the kingdom as the people waited to see who was destined to be their next king.
In one home, the boy and his parents were almost heartbroken when the days stretched into weeks and the seeds failed to sprout. The boy did not know what had gone wrong. He had selected the soil carefully, he had applied the right quantity and type of fertilizer, he had been very dutiful in watering it at the right intervals, he had even prayed over it day and night and yet his seeds had turned out to be unproductive.
Some of his friends advised him to go and buy seed from the market and plant that.'After all,' they said, 'how can anyone tell seeds of grain one from another?'
But his parents who had always taught him the value of integrity reminded him thatif the king wanted them to plant just any grain, he would have asked them to go for their own seed. 'If you take anything different from what the king gave you that would be dishonest. Maybe we are not destined for the throne. If so, let it be, but don't be found to have deceived the king,' they told him.
The appointed day came and the boys returned to the palace each of them proudly exhibiting a pot of healthy seedlings. It was obvious that the other nine boys had had great success with their seeds. The king began making his way down the line of eager boys and asked each of them, 'Is this what came out of the seeds I gave you?' And each boy responded, 'Yes, your majesty.' And the king would nod and move down the line.
The king finally got to the last boy in the line-up. The boy was shaking. He feared that the king might have him thrown into prison for wasting his seeds. 'What did you do with the seeds I gave you?' the king asked.
I planted them and cared for them diligently, Your Majesty, but alas they failed to sprout,' the boy said. He hung his head in shame, and the crowd jeered.
But the king raised his hands and signaled for silence. Then he said, 'My people behold your next king.'
The people were confused. 'Why that one?' many asked.’ How can he be the right choice?'
The king took his place on his throne with the boy by his side and said, 'I gave these boys boiled seeds. This test was not for cultivating grain. It was a test of character; a test of integrity. It was the ultimate test. If a king must have one quality, it must be that he should be above dishonesty. Only this boy passed the test. A boiled seed cannot sprout.'

Sometimes we compete with thieves, we have boiled seeds but we still want to compete with people who steal - you are stressing yourself. How can a 2005 graduate , employed through out ('Boiled seeds') have all the interests listed in the news paper? surely...is it not a case of 'Boiled seeds sprouting'?
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aemathenge
#114 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 12:48:26 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
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Location: Kerugoya
Masukuma, Kind Sir, you fail to appreciate the irony in your fable.

The King of a Kingdom where ninety nine percent of the families and their friends are dishonest and are prepared to do anything to get one of their own on to the Throne.

That is Kenya for you.

One of the most learned Kenian Musician put it so aptly: Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo. I have yet to encounter criticism of this song.

Ponder that.
aemathenge
#115 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 12:50:11 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
Masukuma, Kind Sir, you fail to appreciate the irony in your fable.

The King of a Kingdom where ninety nine percent of the families and their friends are dishonest and are prepared to do anything to get one of their own on to the Throne.

That is Kenya for you.

One of the most learned Kenian Musician put it so aptly: Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo. I have yet to encounter criticism of this song.

Ponder that.
sitaki.kujulikana
#116 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:08:12 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
aemathenge wrote:
Masukuma, Kind Sir, you fail to appreciate the irony in your fable.

The King of a Kingdom where ninety nine percent of the families and their friends are dishonest and are prepared to do anything to get one of their own on to the Throne.

That is Kenya for you.

One of the most learned Kenian Musician put it so aptly: Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo. I have yet to encounter criticism of this song.

Ponder that.


how did you come up with 99% ?
masukuma
#117 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:49:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Masukuma, Kind Sir, you fail to appreciate the irony in your fable.

The King of a Kingdom where ninety nine percent of the families and their friends are dishonest and are prepared to do anything to get one of their own on to the Throne.

That is Kenya for you.

One of the most learned Kenian Musician put it so aptly: Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo. I have yet to encounter criticism of this song.

Ponder that.


how did you come up with 99% ?

then why bother complaining about corruption or misuse of office? When money that was supposed to go to HIV striken individuals is stolen - why bother? after all its 'nchi ya kitu kidogo'... why bother when money meant for roads is stolen and thin roads are built and potholes appear after a couple of days - after all 'ni kuwa mjanja'. why bother when procurement guys use their office to enrich themselves and transfer the cost to the tax payers.... hiyo ndio kujipanga - sio?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#118 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:50:46 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Masukuma, Kind Sir, you fail to appreciate the irony in your fable.

The King of a Kingdom where ninety nine percent of the families and their friends are dishonest and are prepared to do anything to get one of their own on to the Throne.

That is Kenya for you.

One of the most learned Kenian Musician put it so aptly: Inchi Ya Kitu Kidogo. I have yet to encounter criticism of this song.

Ponder that.


how did you come up with 99% ?

then why bother complaining about corruption or misuse of office? When money that was supposed to go to HIV striken individuals is stolen - why bother? after all its 'nchi ya kitu kidogo'... why bother when money meant for roads is stolen and thin roads are built and potholes appear after a couple of days - after all 'ni kuwa mjanja'. why bother when procurement guys use their office to enrich themselves and transfer the cost to the tax payers.... hiyo ndio kujipanga - sio?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Kratos
#119 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:04:42 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2011
Posts: 1,694
masukuma wrote:
An aging king woke up one day acutely aware of his own mortality. He had no son, and his was a culture where only a male heir could take his place.
He decided that he would adopt a son who then could take his place, but he insisted that such an adopted son must be extraordinary in every sense of the word. He considered each of his advisors and relatives in turn, but found them wanting.
So he launched a competition in his kingdom, open to all boys, no matter what their background. Ten boys made it to the very top. There was little to separate these boys in terms of intelligence and physical attributes and capabilities.
The king said to them, 'I have one last test and whoever comes top will become my adopted son and heir to my throne.' Then he said, 'This kingdom depends solely on agriculture, so the king must know how to cultivate plants. Here are seven seeds of grain for each of you. Take them home. Plant and nurture them for six weeks. At the end of six weeks, we shall see who has done the best job of cultivating the grain. That person will be my son and my heir. '
The boys took their seeds and hurried home. Each got a pot, prepared soil, and sowed his seeds. There was much excitement in the kingdom as the people waited to see who was destined to be their next king.
In one home, the boy and his parents were almost heartbroken when the days stretched into weeks and the seeds failed to sprout. The boy did not know what had gone wrong. He had selected the soil carefully, he had applied the right quantity and type of fertilizer, he had been very dutiful in watering it at the right intervals, he had even prayed over it day and night and yet his seeds had turned out to be unproductive.
Some of his friends advised him to go and buy seed from the market and plant that.'After all,' they said, 'how can anyone tell seeds of grain one from another?'
But his parents who had always taught him the value of integrity reminded him thatif the king wanted them to plant just any grain, he would have asked them to go for their own seed. 'If you take anything different from what the king gave you that would be dishonest. Maybe we are not destined for the throne. If so, let it be, but don't be found to have deceived the king,' they told him.
The appointed day came and the boys returned to the palace each of them proudly exhibiting a pot of healthy seedlings. It was obvious that the other nine boys had had great success with their seeds. The king began making his way down the line of eager boys and asked each of them, 'Is this what came out of the seeds I gave you?' And each boy responded, 'Yes, your majesty.' And the king would nod and move down the line.
The king finally got to the last boy in the line-up. The boy was shaking. He feared that the king might have him thrown into prison for wasting his seeds. 'What did you do with the seeds I gave you?' the king asked.
I planted them and cared for them diligently, Your Majesty, but alas they failed to sprout,' the boy said. He hung his head in shame, and the crowd jeered.
But the king raised his hands and signaled for silence. Then he said, 'My people behold your next king.'
The people were confused. 'Why that one?' many asked.’ How can he be the right choice?'
The king took his place on his throne with the boy by his side and said, 'I gave these boys boiled seeds. This test was not for cultivating grain. It was a test of character; a test of integrity. It was the ultimate test. If a king must have one quality, it must be that he should be above dishonesty. Only this boy passed the test. A boiled seed cannot sprout.'

Sometimes we compete with thieves, we have boiled seeds but we still want to compete with people who steal - you are stressing yourself. How can a 2005 graduate , employed through out ('Boiled seeds') have all the interests listed in the news paper? surely...is it not a case of 'Boiled seeds sprouting'?


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tycho
#120 Posted : Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:05:02 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
I suspect one can't avoid being a thief when the prime objective is 'staying ahead of the competition'.

Ouch! It takes some thievery to keep up with the Jones's!
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