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Sonko. The Ultimate Politician
Robinhood
#21 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:18:02 PM
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He actually proving to be a very shrewd politician. You see, politics is a game of perceptions. He just needs to be perceived as caring and all votes are his. I like!

@Madollar, Beth Mugo, by a very nice coincidence just happens to be the cousin of Mr. TNA. Who between Madam cousin and Mr. Sonko do you think will clinch the nomination here?

Its like OARs mess between his bro and Orengo. No prizes fpr guessing who will carry the day!
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
sitaki.kujulikana
#22 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:26:56 PM
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tycho wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Elder wrote:

@sitaki.kujulikana, am not joking. What in your opinion is the role of Parliament and Members of Parliament?


Honestly, I thought you were joking - I have never come across the laid down role of an mp, but in my opinion the current role of an mp is representation of his constituency in parliament plus spearhead, initiate, lobby and manage development projects and the well being of his constituents.


Then the mp will grow fat and the constituent ever thin.

The politician must play the role of making sure the citizen's desires are met, and in the course of it the politician is paid.

So now all can grow fat.

Maybe what Sonko is doing is both necessary and good. But is this all he is intending to do?


I maybe missing a point, but what else is required of a current mp, if he represents the constituents in parliament, caters for the well being and pushes through projects beneficial to the same people.

how will the above lead to the mp growing "fat" and the constituents growing "thin"
Elder
#23 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:40:23 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Elder wrote:

@sitaki.kujulikana, am not joking. What in your opinion is the role of Parliament and Members of Parliament?


Honestly, I thought you were joking - I have never come across the laid down role of an mp, but in my opinion the current role of an mp is representation of his constituency in parliament plus spearhead, initiate, lobby and manage development projects and the well being of his constituents.

Chapter 8 of the Constitution is a good place to start.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
sitaki.kujulikana
#24 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:42:50 PM
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Elder wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Elder wrote:

@sitaki.kujulikana, am not joking. What in your opinion is the role of Parliament and Members of Parliament?


Honestly, I thought you were joking - I have never come across the laid down role of an mp, but in my opinion the current role of an mp is representation of his constituency in parliament plus spearhead, initiate, lobby and manage development projects and the well being of his constituents.

Chapter 8 of the Constitution is a good place to start.


it doesn't mention CDF
jaggernaut
#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:59:50 PM
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Elder wrote:
dossy7 wrote:
I liked the way he empathised with his constituents during the doctor's strike and took them to Nairobi hospital for treatment.
Apart from the sideshows he is there to serve the people,which would be a good thing if all leaders did the same.
The Kenya I want to see is more selfless leaders like Mike Mbuvi aka Sonko.

Shouldn't his work as an MP be foremost about representing his consequents' interests in Parliament and not making them reliant on him with such stunts like paying rent, parking etc?


With such stunts, no wonder they mpigs complain that 1m pay is peanuts, even a pay of 10m would never be enough if you are paying rent for your 100k constituents. We need to urgently draft a job description for mpigs.
Lolest!
#26 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:27:11 PM
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The work of an MP is not, and has never been development projects!

Their work is just to represent you in decision making process. That is the primary role of the legislature in any country. We can't have 40M voters debating on bills and passing them or questioning the executive. That is why we have the leislative arm of govt.

But the Kenyan voter, who presents himself as angelic, requires his MP to ensure dvpt projects are done in his constituency, expects handouts, school fees and fundraising attendance from his MP.

He doesn't care whether he turns up in Bunge or not.

So MPs go on to add themselves pay so that they can cater for your begging and you call them pigs!
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McReggae
#27 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:33:43 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
The work of an MP is not, and has never been development projects!

Their work is just to represent you in decision making process. That is the primary role of the legislature in any country. We can't have 40M voters debating on bills and passing them or questioning the executive. That is why we have the leislative arm of govt.

But the Kenyan voter, who presents himself as angelic, requires his MP to ensure dvpt projects are done in his constituency, expects handouts, school fees and fundraising attendance from his MP.

He doesn't care whether he turns up in Bunge or not.

So MPs go on to add themselves pay so that they can cater for your begging and you call them pigs!


Applause Applause Applause Applause very well put, and many wazuans in this thread you can see reason like the typical kenyan voter!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
sitaki.kujulikana
#28 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:46:44 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
The work of an MP is not, and has never been development projects!

Their work is just to represent you in decision making process. That is the primary role of the legislature in any country. We can't have 40M voters debating on bills and passing them or questioning the executive. That is why we have the leislative arm of govt.

But the Kenyan voter, who presents himself as angelic, requires his MP to ensure dvpt projects are done in his constituency, expects handouts, school fees and fundraising attendance from his MP.

He doesn't care whether he turns up in Bunge or not.

So MPs go on to add themselves pay so that they can cater for your begging and you call them pigs!


Applause Applause Applause Applause very well put, and many wazuans in this thread you can see reason like the typical kenyan voter!!!!


CDF
hoodrat
#29 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:48:51 PM
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Was just about to ask the same what about MPs being in charge of CDFs the main development vehicles?
Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today!
TAZ
#30 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:55:55 PM
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hoodrat wrote:
Was just about to ask the same what about MPs being in charge of CDFs the main development vehicles?


PK's Gatanga is where it is now because of what he achieved with his CDF kitty.
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