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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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yawn "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2010 Posts: 906 Location: Nairobi
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kollabo wrote:KenyanLyrics wrote:Women are attracted to money, power and fame, and Mungatana has all that, plus good looks to boot. So it's no surprise to me that he has two wives, plus multiple babies with famous women. Yes, but one thing he lacks....CHARACTER Try court a Miss Kenya with character alone and report to us the results.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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essyk wrote:aemathenge wrote:Mahe Goat calling @Essyk
Do you read?
Over What now! Am not saying anything.For all I know, she is on a jigger campaign mission. Jiggers are no respecter of persons. Me got no time for Crocodiles and Jiggers copulating. Now how does what they do affect my rent?? Imbi!! Geke!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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aemathenge wrote:
Imbi!! Geke!!
what does it mean? "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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essyk wrote:aemathenge wrote:
Imbi!! Geke!!
what does it mean? My apologies my dear. It is an expression of surprise, shock or awe. You sneer at this thread whereas I expected you to go hammer and tongs at Mamba or Ms Kenya.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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aemathenge wrote:essyk wrote:aemathenge wrote:
Imbi!! Geke!!
what does it mean? My apologies my dear. It is an expression of surprise, shock or awe. You sneer at this thread whereas I expected you to go hammer and tongs at Mamba or Ms Kenya. ahaa.geke!! I choose not to, because many men if given a chance would make her their 2nd,3rd fourth or fifth wife without blinking an eyelid. wouldn't you? I just smell hypocrisy and high levels of testosterone here so lemmie duck. *it wasn't me* "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/26/2008 Posts: 71
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AlphDoti wrote:pn wrote:Everyone undergoes a learning curve and i can assure you sometime from now Cecilia, Linda etal will be giving a very different story let them check out how the story of one Mary Mukindia ended up and what she has to say about her hitching a ride on a fully occupied vehicle. For those who are saying that women are more than men check out Isaiah 34:16a Look in the scroll of the LORD and read:None of there will be missing, not one will lack their mate. Every being is matched with their mate not mates! This is the position to many church people, I mean those who just take their pastors' words as plain truth. They condemn this kind of relationships, painting is like it is hell, eventually making those in it feel like they have done something wrong. Many such people do not look critically at what their Scripture says. They tell these people you've sinned, you'll go to hell. And these same people give a blind eye to mpango wa kando. Some of them even say that if my husband has mpango wa kando, it's better I do not know about it. Is this not pretending ad hypocrisy!! Of course no woman would accept husband to take another wife, but it does not mean this is sin. So @pn even when you're married as the only wife, there're problems. Similarly to those married as 2nd or 3rd or 4th wife, they have their joys and their sorrows too. But when you try to insinuate that plural marriages are guaranteed failure, then you go wrong. Your own Bible tells you how to treat 2nd or 3rd or 1000th wife. Only that your pastor does not read these in his sermons!!! @Alphadoti may i correct you, my reference doesn't come from my pastor but purely from the Supreme source, the Bible. To your question God desires monogamy in marriage however if one finds themselves in another type of marriage our God is a God of second chances you go to Him with a sincerely repentant heart He will forgive you and the Holy Spirit will convict you on the way forward regarding your union. About treating your co-wives the rule of thumb in the Bible is love your neighbour as you love yourself because God knows how to avenge for His own, if He judges that anyone deserves any form of punishment He will mete it out to them in His own way and at His chosen time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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pn wrote:AlphDoti wrote:pn wrote:Everyone undergoes a learning curve and i can assure you sometime from now Cecilia, Linda etal will be giving a very different story let them check out how the story of one Mary Mukindia ended up and what she has to say about her hitching a ride on a fully occupied vehicle. For those who are saying that women are more than men check out Isaiah 34:16a Look in the scroll of the LORD and read:None of there will be missing, not one will lack their mate. Every being is matched with their mate not mates! This is the position to many church people, I mean those who just take their pastors' words as plain truth. They condemn this kind of relationships, painting is like it is hell, eventually making those in it feel like they have done something wrong. Many such people do not look critically at what their Scripture says. They tell these people you've sinned, you'll go to hell. And these same people give a blind eye to mpango wa kando. Some of them even say that if my husband has mpango wa kando, it's better I do not know about it. Is this not pretending ad hypocrisy!! Of course no woman would accept husband to take another wife, but it does not mean this is sin. So @pn even when you're married as the only wife, there're problems. Similarly to those married as 2nd or 3rd or 4th wife, they have their joys and their sorrows too. But when you try to insinuate that plural marriages are guaranteed failure, then you go wrong. Your own Bible tells you how to treat 2nd or 3rd or 1000th wife. Only that your pastor does not read these in his sermons!!! @Alphadoti may i correct you, my reference doesn't come from my pastor but purely from the Supreme source, the Bible. To your question God desires monogamy in marriage however if one finds themselves in another type of marriage our God is a God of second chances you go to Him with a sincerely repentant heart He will forgive you and the Holy Spirit will convict you on the way forward regarding your union. About treating your co-wives the rule of thumb in the Bible is love your neighbour as you love yourself because God knows how to avenge for His own, if He judges that anyone deserves any form of punishment He will mete it out to them in His own way and at His chosen time. @pn I don't understand why you say 'your God this', 'your God that'. Do you mean that you have a different God and other people have a different God? Let me tell you my friend, there is no word from your God saying marry only one  There is no verse in the Bible, which says marry only one  If you read the Bible how many wives did prophets have? You do not know your scripture well. So if these guys in the Bible had more than one wives, some upto 1000, why can't people like Mambatana have two? What is the problem?Look here...- If you read the Jewish scripture, it gives you permission to have wives as many as you wish. - If you read the Christian Bible, it gives you permission to have as many wives as you wish. - If you read the Bible, Abraham had 3 wives. Solomon, how many wives did he have? He had 700 wives. So what happened later on?It is later on the church has put a ban that Christians should marry only one, not the Bible. It is the Jewish community who married more than one wife, until 1950 that Chief Rabbai, pastor Synod, that Jews should marry only one. So it is the rabbai not the Jewish scritures. For completeness sake- And according to Hindu scriptue, you can marry as many as you wish. - It is the Indian government in 1954 passed a law called Hindu Special Marriage Act, which says Hindu should marry only one. - It is not the Hindu scripture, it is the Indian penal court. What does the Quran say?Now if you want to know, I have already said here what the Quran say. Quran 4:23: " Marry women of your choice, in two or threes or fours, but if you can't do justice, MARRY ONLY ONE" This statement marry only one, is only given in the Quran and no other religion or scripture. So what am I saying?So if you want to marry more than one woman, the criteria is you should "do justice". If you can't do justice, you should marry only one. Now, what are the reasons why certain men are permitted to have more than one wife? Many of you who do not understand life and do not understand the scriptures, even their own scriptures, think this issue is compulsory, Polygamy is not compulsory, it is optionalIf you want to discuss this topic and understand the logic behind this, you can just say. But when you say, those who marry more than one wife need to repent, then you go wrong. It is not sin in the eyes of God, it is the church who tells you that. And you do not question. The church even tells people not to marry, if you marry you go to hell. Ridiculous 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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pn wrote:...For those who are saying that women are more than men check out Isaiah 34:16a Look in the scroll of the LORD and read:None of there will be missing, not one will lack their mate. @pn then explain to us the meaning of the below verse from Isaiah 4:1 Quote:In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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If you use the Old Testament to try and prove monogamy, you will lose all the time.  Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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.......so hata Ciku wa busted ni mwingine???? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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AlphDoti wrote:pn wrote:AlphDoti wrote:pn wrote:Everyone undergoes a learning curve and i can assure you sometime from now Cecilia, Linda etal will be giving a very different story let them check out how the story of one Mary Mukindia ended up and what she has to say about her hitching a ride on a fully occupied vehicle. For those who are saying that women are more than men check out Isaiah 34:16a Look in the scroll of the LORD and read:None of there will be missing, not one will lack their mate. Every being is matched with their mate not mates! This is the position to many church people, I mean those who just take their pastors' words as plain truth. They condemn this kind of relationships, painting is like it is hell, eventually making those in it feel like they have done something wrong. Many such people do not look critically at what their Scripture says. They tell these people you've sinned, you'll go to hell. And these same people give a blind eye to mpango wa kando. Some of them even say that if my husband has mpango wa kando, it's better I do not know about it. Is this not pretending ad hypocrisy!! Of course no woman would accept husband to take another wife, but it does not mean this is sin. So @pn even when you're married as the only wife, there're problems. Similarly to those married as 2nd or 3rd or 4th wife, they have their joys and their sorrows too. But when you try to insinuate that plural marriages are guaranteed failure, then you go wrong. Your own Bible tells you how to treat 2nd or 3rd or 1000th wife. Only that your pastor does not read these in his sermons!!! @Alphadoti may i correct you, my reference doesn't come from my pastor but purely from the Supreme source, the Bible. To your question God desires monogamy in marriage however if one finds themselves in another type of marriage our God is a God of second chances you go to Him with a sincerely repentant heart He will forgive you and the Holy Spirit will convict you on the way forward regarding your union. About treating your co-wives the rule of thumb in the Bible is love your neighbour as you love yourself because God knows how to avenge for His own, if He judges that anyone deserves any form of punishment He will mete it out to them in His own way and at His chosen time. @pn I don't understand why you say 'your God this', 'your God that'. Do you mean that you have a different God and other people have a different God? Let me tell you my friend, there is no word from your God saying marry only one There is no verse in the Bible, which says marry only one If you read the Bible how many wives did prophets have? You do not know your scripture well. So if these guys in the Bible had more than one wives, some upto 1000, why can't people like Mambatana have two? What is the problem?Look here...- If you read the Jewish scripture, it gives you permission to have wives as many as you wish. - If you read the Christian Bible, it gives you permission to have as many wives as you wish. - If you read the Bible, Abraham had 3 wives. Solomon, how many wives did he have? He had 700 wives. So what happened later on?It is later on the church has put a ban that Christians should marry only one, not the Bible. It is the Jewish community who married more than one wife, until 1950 that Chief Rabbai, pastor Synod, that Jews should marry only one. So it is the rabbai not the Jewish scritures. For completeness sake- And according to Hindu scriptue, you can marry as many as you wish. - It is the Indian government in 1954 passed a law called Hindu Special Marriage Act, which says Hindu should marry only one. - It is not the Hindu scripture, it is the Indian penal court. What does the Quran say?Now if you want to know, I have already said here what the Quran say. Quran 4:23: " Marry women of your choice, in two or threes or fours, but if you can't do justice, MARRY ONLY ONE" This statement marry only one, is only given in the Quran and no other religion or scripture. So what am I saying?So if you want to marry more than one woman, the criteria is you should "do justice". If you can't do justice, you should marry only one. Now, what are the reasons why certain men are permitted to have more than one wife? Many of you who do not understand life and do not understand the scriptures, even their own scriptures, think this issue is compulsory, Polygamy is not compulsory, it is optionalIf you want to discuss this topic and understand the logic behind this, you can just say. But when you say, those who marry more than one wife need to repent, then you go wrong. It is not sin in the eyes of God, it is the church who tells you that. And you do not question. The church even tells people not to marry, if you marry you go to hell. Ridiculous Are women allowed to get married to many men? Nkt Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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McReggae wrote:.......so hata Ciku wa busted ni mwingine???? how now 2nd wife ama chakula ya mamba? Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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King G wrote:McReggae wrote:.......so hata Ciku wa busted ni mwingine???? how now 2nd wife ama chakula ya mamba? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/25/2009 Posts: 973
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McReggae wrote:King G wrote:McReggae wrote:.......so hata Ciku wa busted ni mwingine???? how now 2nd wife ama chakula ya mamba? Not exactly birds of a feather though..Or are we talking bout celebs in general?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Temperatures are getting hot here. If I may ask, what constitutes a marriage? Legally and Biblicaly
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:Temperatures are getting hot here.
If I may ask, what constitutes a marriage? Legally and Biblicaly Legally:- consent of the girl - consent of the guardian (e.g. father, brother, uncle etc. If guardian refuses then person of authority e.g. Kadhi) - witness(es) - mahri (dowry) Remember the constitution recognizes customary which is just like above? Biblical is similar:- consent of the girl - consent of the guardian - NB: not necessarily any dowry That's it. Marriage is so simple as that. Papers mean nothing in the eyes of God. People have introduced signing of papers only because of the complications and dishonesty that can arise. That's my 2 cent. Story from the Bible Genesis 24:1-66:Quote:1 Abraham was now very old, and the Lord had blessed him in every way.
2 He said to the senior servant in his household, the one in charge of all that he had..
3 I want you to swear by the Lord, the God of heaven and the God of earth, that ...
4 ...will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac.”
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10 Then the servant left, ...and made his way to the town of Nahor.
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11 He had the camels kneel down near the well outside the town; it was toward evening, the time the women go out to draw water.
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15 Before he had finished praying, Rebekah came out with her jar on her shoulder. She was the daughter of Bethuel son of Milkah...
16 The woman was very beautiful, a virgin; no man had ever slept with her. She went down to the spring, filled her jar and came up again.
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22 When the camels had finished drinking, the man took out a gold nose ring weighing a beka and two gold bracelets weighing ten shekels.
23 Then he asked, “Whose daughter are you? Please tell me, is there room in your father’s house for us to spend the night?”
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57 Then they said, “Let’s call the young woman and ask her about it.”
58 So they called Rebekah and asked her, “Will you go with this man?”
“I will go,” she said.
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"66 Then the servant told Isaac all he had done. 67 Isaac brought her into the tent of his mother Sarah, and he married Rebekah. So she became his wife, and he loved her; and Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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rock wrote:McReggae wrote:King G wrote:McReggae wrote:.......so hata Ciku wa busted ni mwingine???? how now 2nd wife ama chakula ya mamba? Not exactly birds of a feather though..Or are we talking bout celebs in general? stills birds of a feather. hers is even worse with that busted jinga of hers. shidwo! pepo njeuthi Thieves
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/7/2011 Posts: 105
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Personally i would not mind her even as a second wife (ata gama ni gontragt)I wonder why guys are complaining here yet wanatamani kwa umbali.
it takes a courageous man to bring in a second wife
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Zenge wrote:Personally i would not mind her even as a second wife (ata gama ni gontragt)I wonder why guys are complaining here yet wanatamani kwa umbali.
it takes a courageous man to bring in a second wife no wonder wewe ni zenge(thenge)!!
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