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mukiha
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:15:40 PM
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msafiri wrote:
CFC Stanbic is one of the most undervalued stocks on the NSE (price to book value of 0.60) i.e the market value is less than book value and trailing PE is less than 6. The rights which start trading are at a 30% discount. So long as they trade at sub KES 10 prices, the rights represent incredible value. For a full report sign up at:

http://www.ashantiresear...esearch-reports_12.html



It's book value is misleading. CFC paid a huge goodwill during the takeover of Stanbic Kenya. It is equal to about half the net assets. That amount still remains in the BS as an asset...

If you knock it off, you find a very different NAV
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:25:29 PM
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The Return on Investment is very low for the bank.
Smaller banks with smaller assets like NIC are raking huge profits compared to CFCStanbic.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:49:09 AM
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Maybe someone knew about this yesterday http://www.businessdaily...-/126elghz/-/index.html
that's why the hight trade!!
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#24 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:15:54 AM
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hisah wrote:
FUNKY on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 wrote:
There has been a trade of 3 million shares at 38/- today...


A turnover of 114M with a day low of 35.25/- This thing is pointing south. Also this volume of 3M share is the 2nd highest in the last 5yrs. The highest being 6M shares back in May 2011.


sib have said yesterday transaction was cross books trade by a foreign investor d'oh!
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#25 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:18:31 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
Maybe someone knew about this yesterday http://www.businessdaily...-/126elghz/-/index.html
that's why the hight trade!!


I think this is very lousy reporting by BDA.

If I remember correctly, CFC stanbic disposed of their interest in SIMS to Liberty Holdings in May 2012 for Ksh124M. Such a devt should thus not affect the banking arm but the insurance company.
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#26 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:53:09 AM
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mukiha wrote:
msafiri wrote:
CFC Stanbic is one of the most undervalued stocks on the NSE (price to book value of 0.60) i.e the market value is less than book value and trailing PE is less than 6. The rights which start trading are at a 30% discount. So long as they trade at sub KES 10 prices, the rights represent incredible value. For a full report sign up at:

http://www.ashantiresear...esearch-reports_12.html

It's book value is misleading. CFC paid a huge goodwill during the takeover of Stanbic Kenya. It is equal to about half the net assets. That amount still remains in the BS as an asset...

If you knock it off, you find a very different NAV
Those are the subtleties folks miss when valuing firms!
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#27 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:55:22 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
The Return on Investment is very low for the bank.
Smaller banks with smaller assets like NIC are raking huge profits compared to CFCStanbic.
Look at 1/2 year results. Banks like I&M (traded though City Trust), DTB, NIC have 1/2 the assets of CSH yet PAT is the same as CSH.
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#28 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 4:06:35 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
FUNKY on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 wrote:
There has been a trade of 3 million shares at 38/- today...


A turnover of 114M with a day low of 35.25/- This thing is pointing south. Also this volume of 3M share is the 2nd highest in the last 5yrs. The highest being 6M shares back in May 2011.


sib have said yesterday transaction was cross books trade by a foreign investor d'oh!

Almost 2M shares traded today... VWAP @38/- Heavy share trading on CFC counter this week.
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FUNKY
#29 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 4:23:05 PM
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Seems some good news are on the way...rights issue oversubscribed by a huge percentage!!
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sparkly
#30 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 9:06:35 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mukiha wrote:
msafiri wrote:
CFC Stanbic is one of the most undervalued stocks on the NSE (price to book value of 0.60) i.e the market value is less than book value and trailing PE is less than 6. The rights which start trading are at a 30% discount. So long as they trade at sub KES 10 prices, the rights represent incredible value. For a full report sign up at:

http://www.ashantiresear...esearch-reports_12.html

It's book value is misleading. CFC paid a huge goodwill during the takeover of Stanbic Kenya. It is equal to about half the net assets. That amount still remains in the BS as an asset...

If you knock it off, you find a very different NAV
Those are the subtleties folks miss when valuing firms!


If i remember right the figure was KShs 13 billion?

It represents the "cash profit" paid to Njonjo and Co for them to give up their stake in CFC.
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StatMeister
#31 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:06:16 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mukiha wrote:
msafiri wrote:
CFC Stanbic is one of the most undervalued stocks on the NSE (price to book value of 0.60) i.e the market value is less than book value and trailing PE is less than 6. The rights which start trading are at a 30% discount. So long as they trade at sub KES 10 prices, the rights represent incredible value. For a full report sign up at:

http://www.ashantiresear...esearch-reports_12.html

It's book value is misleading. CFC paid a huge goodwill during the takeover of Stanbic Kenya. It is equal to about half the net assets. That amount still remains in the BS as an asset...

If you knock it off, you find a very different NAV
Those are the subtleties folks miss when valuing firms!


If i remember right the figure was KShs 13 billion?

It represents the "cash profit" paid to Njonjo and Co for them to give up their stake in CFC.


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#32 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 8:42:38 AM
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Rights oversubscribed by 112 percent

http://www.businessdaily...78/-/5vohyt/-/index.html
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#33 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 8:54:52 AM
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VituVingiSana
#34 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 9:33:19 AM
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[quote=FUNKY]Rights oversubscribed by 112 percent

http://www.businessdaily...8/-/5vohyt/-/index.html[/quote] Not quite. Over-subscription was 12% but still a resounding success since it was a 4:9
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#35 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 4:16:45 PM
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Great allocation criteria - anyone who applied for 1,000 or less got full allocation. Everyone else got minimum 1,000 and pro-rata above that. No feeling of having been shafted with a thick iron rod.
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#36 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 4:38:20 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Great allocation criteria - anyone who applied for 1,000 or less got full allocation. Everyone else got minimum 1,000 and pro-rata above that. No feeling of having been shafted with a thick iron rod.


I agree. I especially like the fact that this allocation criteria was actually included in the Information Memorandum for all to see unlike some other rights Issues.
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mwekez@ji
#37 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:22:13 PM
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What was the percentage of foreigners Vs locals holding now that post rights its 74.743% Vs 25.257%?
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VituVingiSana
#38 Posted : Monday, November 05, 2012 8:22:59 AM
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xxxxx wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Great allocation criteria - anyone who applied for 1,000 or less got full allocation. Everyone else got minimum 1,000 and pro-rata above that. No feeling of having been shafted with a thick iron rod.


I agree. I especially like the fact that this allocation criteria was actually included in the Information Memorandum for all to see unlike some other rights Issues.
Like NIC!
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