On calling things by their right name ......

The young people are there assembled; there is the sound of vocal and instrumental music. Christians are gathered there, but what is that you hear?

It is a song, a frivolous ditty, fit for the dance hall - on Wednesday night and Sunday morning.

A bedlam of noise with shouting and drums and music and dancing and with din that shocks the senses ....... and then it is called the holy spirits working.

And whats with the speaking in tongues that only 'comes' after swaying to delirious music? Cannot the tongues 'come' without feeling good and excitement aroused by the music? Music, or is it noise?

Then the 'religious' service is something of a sensational character. Anything that appeals to the unimpassioned reason awakens no response.

And then they throw in cliches - 'trust God', 'Bila Yesu siwezi', 'Life without God is empty' ..... No wonder @Hamburglar gets radioactive around them.

YW looks forward to the day this 'christian' madness will end!

@YW, when someone says 'I like this' he/she is stating his/her preference. He/she is limited to the relative. And is it not true that you don't like the voice? It is true. Hence the relative can be true.

If I were to reduce your post into a simple argument then it would run like this; The voice is misleading you because it has not answered some questions that you'd want it to answer. And /or the voice has said things you don't agree with because you always agree with the absolute truth.

Taking the first version of your argument, I'd like to remind you that it was my experience, not yours. And you cannot prescribe for anyone an experience and more so, how can you prescribe an event after it has happened?

Again, all those prescriptions you've given are entirely unnecessary to me. Those are not my questions, those are your questions.

We can now look at the second version of your argument. And to it I'll ask a simple question. Why are you seeking the truth if you already have it? And if you have the truth why didn't you come with solutions?

You must have overlooked the fact that I was revealing myself. Otherwise you'd not have shown disregard to my experience. You seem to care more about postulates than persons!

You ask me whose voice it was that I heard. But what is the significance of this? Look at it and you'll see no logical import whatsoever, at least as far as I am concerned. Ah! It has no value to you- perhaps contrary to your belief.

Finally, I'd like to inform you that YW is another voice in my world. Can I tell it to shut up? Okay, let me introduce another voice 'Ras'. How would you respond to; 'YW, Ras has instructed me not to talk to you!'

So who are you to give such instructions? YW yawa, ang'o marach?

@Tycho, YW is sorry if he/she appeared confrontational to the voice.

YW had no right to probe the voice uninvited and understands your reaction to that post and even to the 2nd unrelated post.

YW regrets that this now appears to be descending towards a quarrel and bicker between Tycho and YW where one opposes the others posts. It was not the intention of starting this.

YW will hence no longer oppose or support posts but will keep on with his / her agenda of giving his / her thoughts on various issues he /she comes across.

There is a campaign to drink milk. Though no specification is made, the YW assumes it is cows milk.

What are the benefits of milk? Cows milk? Protein, calcium etc.

YW has come across sentiment like:

'Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.'

'The human milk contains 1.2 mg/liter of protein while the rat's milk contains ten times as much as 11.8 mg./liter ..... therefore drink rats milk!'

Are these just the idle rantings of animal rights people?

Facebook.

YW has an account so do many of us. Being beat down on facebook is a much much worse than on an 'anonymous' forum like Wazua.

YW has been beaten down more times than he cares to remember in other 'anonymous' forums. That is not a brag but an admission of imperfection and vulnerability.

Recently, YW saw a Wazuan being busted for having multiple accounts. Can YW create another user and try it out? The beat down to possibly arise from that will be less horrific than if it were on facebook. But YW does not want 2 accounts.

YW had thought of changing his username and email to something less conspicuous. But Wazua has no such option. This is not a new phenomenon. Others have had these concerns before YW. Then the new 'YW' will resume from scratch, without baggage of a secondary account.

Can the admin delete a user and all his / her account upon request? If so, YW requests to be deleted totally without much ado, rank notwithstanding.

'Beat down?' Then YW has been wrestling instead of dancing.

But this whole business of being is about dancing and singing. And of course there are the warm hugs and kisses, sighs, and other expressions of ardent love and truth!

It has never been about statements but it has always been about bodies warming bodies, eating, drinking . . .paradise, and not till sophistry came did matters take a turn and words become weapons!

But YW and Tycho and many others here in wazua can change all this. I am dying for a good dance myself!

Suppose admin grants YW's request, and a 'hello' is born, what would it say?

There's nothing more to be said in contention! Now we are only left with the task of singing!

Let YW pick himself up!