YesuWangu wrote:@ Tycho,
The voice you heard, whose was it?
The voice told you that the problem is that you have always taken yourself as the center. The voice should have proposed a solution to this 'problem'.
The voice should have told you if 'you' are the problem or the 'centre' the problem. Or the 'problem' the problem.
The voice should have told you the solution to the problem. The voice could have suggested if truth can solve the 'problem'.
The voice should have told you if truth is words, then what words they are. The voice should have told you whose words they are.
And what the words say. And what they mean. And where they are stated (for reference). And why they are stated. And for whose benefit they are stated. And to whose detriment (if there are beneficiaries).
I dont like that voice. It is not directing you to the truth. Tell it to stop speaking to you.
@YW, when someone says 'I like this' he/she is stating his/her preference. He/she is limited to the relative. And is it not true that you don't like the voice? It is true. Hence the relative can be true.
If I were to reduce your post into a simple argument then it would run like this; The voice is misleading you because it has not answered some questions that you'd want it to answer. And /or the voice has said things you don't agree with because you always agree with the absolute truth.
Taking the first version of your argument, I'd like to remind you that it was my experience, not yours. And you cannot prescribe for anyone an experience and more so, how can you prescribe an event after it has happened?
Again, all those prescriptions you've given are entirely unnecessary to me. Those are not my questions, those are your questions.
We can now look at the second version of your argument. And to it I'll ask a simple question. Why are you seeking the truth if you already have it? And if you have the truth why didn't you come with solutions?
You must have overlooked the fact that I was revealing myself. Otherwise you'd not have shown disregard to my experience. You seem to care more about postulates than persons!
You ask me whose voice it was that I heard. But what is the significance of this? Look at it and you'll see no logical import whatsoever, at least as far as I am concerned. Ah! It has no value to you- perhaps contrary to your belief.
Finally, I'd like to inform you that YW is another voice in my world. Can I tell it to shut up? Okay, let me introduce another voice 'Ras'. How would you respond to; 'YW, Ras has instructed me not to talk to you!'
So who are you to give such instructions? YW yawa, ang'o marach?