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gesowan
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:56:02 PM
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i have just received an opinion from my broker that its time i buy into East African Portland Cement eti @ 32 its a buy buy buy
S.Mutaga III
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:59:05 PM
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gesowan wrote:
i have just received an opinion from my broker that its time i buy into East African Portland Cement eti @ 32 its a buy buy buy

what reasons did he or she sight for you so as to rate it as a buy???
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obiero
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:59:42 PM
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ua broker is on cheap drugs. the firm has systematic and political problems that will take some time to resolve. buyin now will tie up your capital needlessly. but it does look cheap at 32.. though that may not be its bottom

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
mwekez@ji
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:00:00 PM
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Which broker? share with us the report on wazua@googlegroups.com cc 2mwekezaji@gmail.com
mlennyma
#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:08:07 PM
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This share used live over 100bob so at 32 i would consider it discounted,the problem is management woes which are far from over.
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mwekez@ji
#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:31:33 PM
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East African Portland is a near perfect Example of the Bifurcation we are seeing at the Nairobi Securities Exchange between Companies that are not making the Cut and those that are and you just need to compare Portland with Bamburi Cement and Athi River Mining to see that in Bifurcation in Action (Rich, very true)
mwekez@ji
#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:41:17 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This share used live over 100bob so at 32 i would consider it discounted,the problem is management woes which are far from over.


Booming industry, lagging company #Bifurcation. all coz of management. ... KES 32 on a 40% drop could be a play, but the 500 shares trade is too tiny
gesowan
#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:03:10 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Which broker? share with us the report on wazua@googlegroups.com cc 2mwekezaji@gmail.com

let me remain professional but this is what they wrote to me
"We have a buy recommendation on the company. Our twelve month target price is at Ksh 80. We expect the company to make profits as the loss was due to labor issues that have since been settled.The company has a huge asset base and a huge track of land.The loan with Japan is yen denominated and the company is repaying it,there is a building boom in kenya providing the company with new growth opportunities. Good long term buy.
Aguytrying
#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:06:56 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This share used live over 100bob so at 32 i would consider it discounted,the problem is management woes which are far from over.


Booming industry, lagging company #Bifurcation. all coz of management. ... KES 32 on a 40% drop could be a play, but the 500 shares trade is too tiny


I would only consider it a play for liquidation in bankrupcy (but GOK is there.....) if the market price is way below the book value.
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mwekez@ji
#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:23:47 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This share used live over 100bob so at 32 i would consider it discounted,the problem is management woes which are far from over.


Booming industry, lagging company #Bifurcation. all coz of management. ... KES 32 on a 40% drop could be a play, but the 500 shares trade is too tiny


I would only consider it a play for liquidation in bankrupcy (but GOK is there.....) if the market price is way below the book value.


The book value is KES 53.77 Vs todays price of KES 32.00. ... but true that, this cant go into liquidation though the assets are notably valuable. Lafarge holding in this counter is damned by GOK
mwekez@ji
#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:31:22 PM
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gesowan wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Which broker? share with us the report on wazua@googlegroups.com cc 2mwekezaji@gmail.com

let me remain professional but this is what they wrote to me
"We have a buy recommendation on the company. Our twelve month target price is at Ksh 80. We expect the company to make profits as the loss was due to labor issues that have since been settled.The company has a huge asset base and a huge track of land.The loan with Japan is yen denominated and the company is repaying it,there is a building boom in kenya providing the company with new growth opportunities. Good long term buy.


Thex. The full report is welcomed for us to get down to the nitty gritty of this recommendation. I believe it is in order to send it to the above email addresses like many other wazuans have been doing when they receive such recommendations from their respective brokers and investment banks
murchr
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:45:13 AM
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What happened here today? I have been watching it since last week and the thing was on an upward trend then all over sudden a plunge of -40% iko nini?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:53:38 AM
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The 500 shares which traded yesterday cannot be an indicator that the share is going for 32bob,so its immature for any brocker to issue a buy recomedation at 32 as if thousands traded remember this is an illiquid share.
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King G
#14 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:51:43 AM
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The company need to sort out its governance and management issues fast enough for it to reposition its self back to the market.

its asset base is massive, has GoK backing (which is bad at times due to polical interferance) and the market for its product is there within the Region.
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Mukiri
#15 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:01:00 PM
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gesowan wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Which broker? share with us the report on wazua@googlegroups.com cc 2mwekezaji@gmail.com

let me remain professional but this is what they wrote to me
"We have a buy recommendation on the company. Our twelve month target price is at Ksh 80. We expect the company to make profits as the loss was due to labor issues that have since been settled.The company has a huge asset base and a huge track of land.The loan with Japan is yen denominated and the company is repaying it,there is a building boom in kenya providing the company with new growth opportunities. Good long term buy.


Good broker that one. Nice and simple information. I get looooooong reports that make me question my intelligence. Nipe yeye and/or other novice-friendly brokers making_a_life-inchrist (at) yahu (dot) com

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Aguytrying
#16 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:56:07 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
gesowan wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Which broker? share with us the report on wazua@googlegroups.com cc 2mwekezaji@gmail.com

let me remain professional but this is what they wrote to me
"We have a buy recommendation on the company. Our twelve month target price is at Ksh 80. We expect the company to make profits as the loss was due to labor issues that have since been settled.The company has a huge asset base and a huge track of land.The loan with Japan is yen denominated and the company is repaying it,there is a building boom in kenya providing the company with new growth opportunities. Good long term buy.


Good broker that one. Nice and simple information. I get looooooong reports that make me question my intelligence. Nipe yeye and/or other novice-friendly brokers making_a_life-inchrist (at) yahu (dot) com


with a company like this they lose me at management...i dont hear anything else after that
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King G
#17 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:28:20 PM
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brokers recomemndations should just be: Buy, Hold, Sell. That is why they are paid.
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gesowan
#18 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:03:45 PM
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infact i have placed an order for this stock
"lets buy when there is blood in the streets"
mwekez@ji
#19 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:45:14 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
gesowan wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Which broker? share with us the report on wazua@googlegroups.com cc 2mwekezaji@gmail.com

let me remain professional but this is what they wrote to me
"We have a buy recommendation on the company. Our twelve month target price is at Ksh 80. We expect the company to make profits as the loss was due to labor issues that have since been settled.The company has a huge asset base and a huge track of land.The loan with Japan is yen denominated and the company is repaying it,there is a building boom in kenya providing the company with new growth opportunities. Good long term buy.


Good broker that one. Nice and simple information. I get looooooong reports that make me question my intelligence. Nipe yeye and/or other novice-friendly brokers making_a_life-inchrist (at) yahu (dot) com


with a company like this they lose me at management...i dont hear anything else after that


@Aguy, ditto
mwekez@ji
#20 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:49:41 AM
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gesowan wrote:
infact i have placed an order for this stock
"lets buy when there is blood in the streets"


All the best.

BTW, you will be very lucky to fill your order in this illiquid counter. It has a free float of 6% only (GOK holds 25.6%, NSSF - 27% and Lafarge 41.7%)
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