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Olympia capital where to?
sparkly
#41 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:20:45 AM
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gesowan wrote:
@sparky 18 and rights 14 still hanging in on there "but hope is not an investment strategy"


@gesowan true hope is not an investment strategy. OCH had a lot of lofty promise with their south african investments.They should have delivered a windfall from selling tiles in the 2010 world cup construction boom but they didnt. Instead they made serious losses and announced bankruptcies. The Co has been returning negatives returns to shareholders and fundamentals are very weak.

It is surely time to swallow the bitter pill and move on.

If you dont set targets, it is hard to admit a mistake and sell a hopeless position just as it is not easy to take profits in a share that has reached fair value but still rising.

When faced with such dilemma, i sell slowly in lots untill i am left with a position i am comfortable with.

I suggest that you start by selling half of your shares at current price and putting it in a more promising stock.
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Aguytrying
#42 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:31:35 AM
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sparkly wrote:
gesowan wrote:
@sparky 18 and rights 14 still hanging in on there "but hope is not an investment strategy"


@gesowan true hope is not an investment strategy. OCH had a lot of lofty promise with their south african investments.They should have delivered a windfall from selling tiles in the 2010 world cup construction boom but they didnt. Instead they made serious losses and announced bankruptcies. The Co has been returning negatives returns to shareholders and fundamentals are very weak.

It is surely time to swallow the bitter pill and move on.

If you dont set targets, it is hard to admit a mistake and sell a hopeless position just as it is not easy to take profits in a share that has reached fair value but still rising.

When faced with such dilemma, i sell slowly in lots untill i am left with a position i am comfortable with.

I suggest that you start by selling half of your shares at current price and putting it in a more promising stock.


good advice right there. no need to keep digging when you realise you are in a hole. identify another company and gradually divest from OCH. You will live to see another day
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Am
#43 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:36:26 AM
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Exit now. Sell sell sell. forgive and pray for one Matu Wamae.
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
FUNKY
#44 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:32:15 AM
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There is a material announcement affecting Olympia Capital today...any news?
FUNKY
#45 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:17:45 PM
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xxxxx
#46 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:18:39 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
There is a material announcement affecting Olympia Capital today...any news?


http://www.nse.co.ke/lis...mpany-announcements.html
Musag
#47 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:42:44 PM
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PAT up by 30%. What do you think of the company wazuans?
mukiha
#48 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:14:11 PM
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mukiha wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Suppose you have 35k to invest; would you buy 10k shares of SCOM or 10k shares of OCHL?


Since the day this question was asked, OCH has gained 4.29% [from Sh3.50 to 3.65 yesterday] and SCOM 16% [from 3.45 to 4.00 yesterday]

Who's laughing now?


And now; five short months later, SCOM is at 4.40 while this thing is still pretending to be at 3.65!

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Aguytrying
#49 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:32:59 PM
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Musag wrote:
PAT up by 30%. What do you think of the company wazuans?


do not even look at it in the nse list
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
FUNKY
#50 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:37:19 PM
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This time round they did not delay in releasing the results..one positive point..hahaha
gesowan
#51 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:46:16 PM
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this company has assets in excess of a billion...but i guess the new MD might change the course of this ship which is anchored
FUNKY
#52 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:35:59 AM
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dunkang
#53 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2013 7:08:00 PM
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mukiha wrote:
mukiha wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Suppose you have 35k to invest; would you buy 10k shares of SCOM or 10k shares of OCHL?


Since the day this question was asked, OCH has gained 4.29% [from Sh3.50 to 3.65 yesterday] and SCOM 16% [from 3.45 to 4.00 yesterday]

Who's laughing now?


And now; five short months later, SCOM is at 4.40 while this thing is still pretending to be at 3.65!


OCH still pretending to be at 3.65/- (4.29p.c gain) while SCOM is at 5.50/- and having touched 6/-.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

VituVingiSana
#54 Posted : Friday, February 01, 2013 7:44:05 PM
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michael matu & friends not done hollowing out the company
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sparkly
#55 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:46:29 AM
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gesowan wrote:
this company has assets in excess of a billion...but i guess the new MD might change the course of this ship which is anchored


@Gesowan did you offload OCH? Hope you took advantage to ride the recent bull on other promising stocks and recover some of your losses.
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#56 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:31:05 PM
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aiiiiish . it it that people know how to invest so much and have bought ALL of the performing stocks that now they are turning to OCH ?
sparkly
#57 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:39:49 PM
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techboy wrote:
aiiiiish . it it that people know how to invest so much and have bought ALL of the performing stocks that now they are turning to OCH ?

Go through the thread.
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mwekez@ji
#58 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2013 1:51:55 PM
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February 01, 2013 dunkang wrote:
October 30, 2012 mukiha wrote:
September 21, 2012 mukiha wrote:
May 14, 2012 chiaroscuro wrote:
Suppose you have 35k to invest; would you buy 10k shares of SCOM or 10k shares of OCHL?


Since the day this question was asked, OCH has gained 4.29% [from Sh3.50 to 3.65 yesterday] and SCOM 16% [from 3.45 to 4.00 yesterday]

Who's laughing now?


And now; five short months later, SCOM is at 4.40 while this thing is still pretending to be at 3.65!


OCH still pretending to be at 3.65/- (4.29p.c gain) while SCOM is at 5.50/- and having touched 6/-.


And now; 1 year later, OCHL is at a low 4.00 (+14.29%) and SCOM is at a high 6.30 (+82.61%). NSE 20 index (+52.84%). Verdict, OCHL has underperformed SCOM and the index. @guru 267, what convinces you that going forward, OCHL will become a star and do better than other counters?
guru267
#59 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:12:10 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
@guru 267, what convinces you that going forward, OCHL will become a star and do better than other counters?


@mwekez@ji this stock has hit its true bottom and don't you think its about time it joined the likes of AK, PAKA, CIC & LIBERTY??
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mwekez@ji
#60 Posted : Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:30:49 PM
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guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
@guru 267, what convinces you that going forward, OCHL will become a star and do better than other counters?


@mwekez@ji this stock has hit its true bottom and don't you think its about time it joined the likes of AK, PAKA, CIC & LIBERTY??


The thing is, it could have hit its bottom but with the current bull, the counter upsurge could continue being less than the upsurge of other counters and the index. .... The company has very low Return on Equity and equally very low Return on Assets. The names in the Board of Directors are not anything to write home about and these directors are not delivering the magic required to performance of this company. I therefore dont see why the company should see a sudden high upsurge in price unless they decide to sell the land, buildings, plant & machinery, etc and distribute the cash to shareholders .... tell me what you are seen and i am not
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