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The Mortgage Company - Any Info on Them?
Elder
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:32:01 PM
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Came across this company during the just ended Expo. Their website doesn't offer much, no history of their projects that I can find and their office numbers are cell phones. Anybody dealt with them or know more about them?
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Mainat
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:44:18 PM
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Carol Kariuki the founder used to run S&L, KCB's mortgage business
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mmarto
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:49:27 PM
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Elder wrote:
Came across this company during the just ended Expo. Their website doesn't offer much, no history of their projects that I can find and their office numbers are cell phones. Anybody dealt with them or know more about them?

Which is this company. website?
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Olu
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:51:18 PM
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Olu
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:54:39 PM
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Elder wrote:
Came across this company during the just ended Expo. Their website doesn't offer much, no history of their projects that I can find and their office numbers are cell phones. Anybody dealt with them or know more about them?



Their Makazi mema product is really good. Call one of their representatives and they can take you to one of their show houses. I think they have a tour bus scheduled for this Saturday unless am mistaken.
Elder
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:18:10 PM
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Thanks @mainat. How was she at S&L?

@Olu it is actually the makazi mema product that has me interested in them. However would like to know about the company and gauge if it is a genuine deal or another Kenyan property ponzi. Figured Wazua might be a good place to commence due diligence.
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Olu
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:34:14 PM
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@ Elder....Personally, I have seen the two show houses..one in Juja and the other in Kitengela....the workmanship is good and the finishing well done....
As concerns their credentials, these are part of the guys doing the Longonot Gates project in Naivasha.
Mainat
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:36:12 PM
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Elnder-I am sure the kcb fans will have a better view, but I was surprised when MOO gave her a package since she kept S&L afloat for many years until Kenya's RE picked up.
Don't know her personally to vouch for her honesty though...
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bwenyenye
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:49:55 PM
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Elder wrote:
Thanks @mainat. How was she at S&L?

@Olu it is actually the makazi mema product that has me interested in them. However would like to know about the company and gauge if it is a genuine deal or another Kenyan property ponzi. Figured Wazua might be a good place to commence due diligence.


Based on past experiences, I can vouch for her. She has integrity and good exposure to the mortgage industry in Kenya. As mentioned earlier, Savings and Loan owes its survival to her.
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propertyzote
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:19:44 PM
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The Owner Is Carol Karuiki. I met her back in 2009 while she was the head of KCB S&L. She is a very smart focused and entrepreneurial lady. She was actually the first individuals to welcome the idea of online property listing: Propertyzote.com in particular. It was a great and timely move for her to venture on her own. As at @bwenyeye says KCB S&L owes its survival to her. She indeed turned around S&L to what it is now. She is good to work with.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:42:30 PM
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Olu wrote:
@ Elder....Personally, I have seen the two show houses..one in Juja and the other in Kitengela....the workmanship is good and the finishing well done....
As concerns their credentials, these are part of the guys doing the Longonot Gates project in Naivasha.



Where in Kitengela?
Olu
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:04:30 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
Olu wrote:
@ Elder....Personally, I have seen the two show houses..one in Juja and the other in Kitengela....the workmanship is good and the finishing well done....
As concerns their credentials, these are part of the guys doing the Longonot Gates project in Naivasha.



Where in Kitengela?



Somewhere in New Valley Estate....an individual's house.
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#13 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 1:26:37 AM
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Olu wrote:
Elder wrote:
Came across this company during the just ended Expo. Their website doesn't offer much, no history of their projects that I can find and their office numbers are cell phones. Anybody dealt with them or know more about them?



Their Makazi mema product is really good. Call one of their representatives and they can take you to one of their show houses. I think they have a tour bus scheduled for this Saturday unless am mistaken.


The Morgage Company stand at the just ended Housing Expo was my best moment.
Its Makazi Mema product if well marketed may prove to be a game changer in the morgage industry in Kenya. That lady must be a genious!!

This is how the Makazi Mema product rolls out:
The Morgage company has brought together 2 other partners:
1. Rafiki Deposit Taking Microfinance
2. Oaks Construction Company

Step 1. The Morgage Company first conducts a due deligence to ascertain ability to pay morgage.
Step 2. An individual needs at least an eigth of an acre (50 by 100 plot)- The Rafiki Microfinance will finance upto 70% of the purchase price of the plot.
Step 3. With a title deed in hand, you are given about 6 designs to choose from ranging from 2 bedroom house of 50sqm to a 4 bedroom of 150 sqm.
Step 4. The Oaks Costruction company is given the funds to construct the hse and within 4-6 months, the house is ready for occupation.

What makes the product great?
1. The house is delivered at cost ie the smallest house of 50sqm is projected to cost Ksh 1M; the largest house of 150sqm is projected to cost Ksh 3.5M. (This means the construction costs are within a range of Ksh 20,000 - 23,500 per sqm).
2. Since the houses are delivered at cost, the morgage repayment amount is approximately half the amount a similar buyer of a house will pay if the house is bought from a housing developer. ie The 4 bedroom house of 150sqm which is delivered at a cost of Ksh 3.5M would be priced at about Ksh 6-7M if bought from a housing development company.
Repayment amounts over a 10 year period therefore range from Ksh 18,019 (for the 50sqm house) to Ksh 63,056 (for the 150sqm 4 bedroom house). The key to this reduced morgage repayment figures is based on getting the house at actual cost hence eliminating the mark-up imposed by developers.
3. Repayment starts after occupation.....means it can be a seamless transfer from rent payment to morgage payment.
4. Ready designs available for clients to choose from.

The product targets the middle class. I only wish they can upgrade the ceiling to houses whose construction costs are about Ksh 5-6M (about 220 -260sqm) with a repayment of about Ksh 90,000 - 108,000 p.m.

They also need to up their marketting of this great product......i was informed that more than 500 people registered for the product during the Expo!

Happy Hunting and Kudos to Carol Kariuki.
accelriskconsult
#14 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 8:44:51 AM
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stocksmaster wrote:
Olu wrote:
Elder wrote:
Came across this company during the just ended Expo. Their website doesn't offer much, no history of their projects that I can find and their office numbers are cell phones. Anybody dealt with them or know more about them?



Their Makazi mema product is really good. Call one of their representatives and they can take you to one of their show houses. I think they have a tour bus scheduled for this Saturday unless am mistaken.


The Morgage Company stand at the just ended Housing Expo was my best moment.
Its Makazi Mema product if well marketed may prove to be a game changer in the morgage industry in Kenya. That lady must be a genious!!

This is how the Makazi Mema product rolls out:
The Morgage company has brought together 2 other partners:
1. Rafiki Deposit Taking Microfinance
2. Oaks Construction Company

Step 1. The Morgage Company first conducts a due deligence to ascertain ability to pay morgage.
Step 2. An individual needs at least an eigth of an acre (50 by 100 plot)- The Rafiki Microfinance will finance upto 70% of the purchase price of the plot.
Step 3. With a title deed in hand, you are given about 6 designs to choose from ranging from 2 bedroom house of 50sqm to a 4 bedroom of 150 sqm.
Step 4. The Oaks Costruction company is given the funds to construct the hse and within 4-6 months, the house is ready for occupation.

What makes the product great?
1. The house is delivered at cost ie the smallest house of 50sqm is projected to cost Ksh 1M; the largest house of 150sqm is projected to cost Ksh 3.5M. (This means the construction costs are within a range of Ksh 20,000 - 23,500 per sqm).
2. Since the houses are delivered at cost, the morgage repayment amount is approximately half the amount a similar buyer of a house will pay if the house is bought from a housing developer. ie The 4 bedroom house of 150sqm which is delivered at a cost of Ksh 3.5M would be priced at about Ksh 6-7M if bought from a housing development company.
Repayment amounts over a 10 year period therefore range from Ksh 18,019 (for the 50sqm house) to Ksh 63,056 (for the 150sqm 4 bedroom house). The key to this reduced morgage repayment figures is based on getting the house at actual cost hence eliminating the mark-up imposed by developers.
3. Repayment starts after occupation.....means it can be a seamless transfer from rent payment to morgage payment.
4. Ready designs available for clients to choose from.

The product targets the middle class. I only wish they can upgrade the ceiling to houses whose construction costs are about Ksh 5-6M (about 220 -260sqm) with a repayment of about Ksh 90,000 - 108,000 p.m.

They also need to up their marketting of this great product......i was informed that more than 500 people registered for the product during the Expo!

Happy Hunting and Kudos to Carol Kariuki.



Good info.

I talked to one of their reps on phone and he told me that they have a bus tour tomorrow. The bus tour will take interested parties to show houses.

He also confirmed that the they work with insurance companies to offer a loss of employment policy to mortgage buyers (in case of retrenchment- 9 months loan instalments paid.

Very interesting product.
Elder
#15 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 10:52:24 AM
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Thanks all for your very helpful information. Have contacted them for more information and the tour. Great weekend.
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eco
#16 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 11:07:47 AM
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Very interesting indeed. Such a product will enable many middle class families to own homes. A 20-30% down-payment would make the repayments even more affordable.

Could a Wazuan going for the tour kindly post some photos of the real house for us to see the end product?
madammary
#17 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 12:45:24 PM
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if u already have your own plot would they keep the title deed for your plot until u finish repaying the loan
mawinder
#18 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 1:36:52 PM
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Stocksmaster from your post,i dont see apart from due diligence what else this company does and how does it make money?
Olu
#19 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 2:35:11 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Stocksmaster from your post,i dont see apart from due diligence what else this company does and how does it make money?



Apart from the economies of scale, mortgage interest at 14% does it.
josimar
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:03:14 PM
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Any wazuan plot owner who has gone into contract with The Mortgage Company on the Makazi Mema Product ? Please share experience.
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