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The power of financial education
eco
#301 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:19:12 PM
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Once a business break-evens and is floating, it is prudent to employ someone to help you in managing it, and delegate proportionately to them, leaving you with abut a 1/3 of the work. Then reduce this even further with time. It feels great to see an enterprise standing while the owner is hands off. It starts by motivating your employees and teaching your clients to trust your system more that you.

@Marty, as you address your next post, what do you think about ESOP for small businesses, or is it inviting problems?

Thanks a lot for great lessons. I look forward your next post.
Am
#302 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:41:59 PM
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Marty. Really, you rock. you are simply amazing, a blessed guy. Thank you for the good work.

I know this sounds silly but The more I read your posts, I keep asking myself things like How old is Mwalimu Marty? Does he have Kids? How Many? Which church does he attend? Where does Mwalimu stay? Which High scool did he attend? Why cant' he open a college or something and teach these things? etc, etc.

God Bless you.
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
Marty
#303 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:05:12 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
I think a person of Njuguna's standing should have grown over that. When the start up is new, one is bound to be doing everything and trusting no one. At that point, failure is a few inches below your soles. With stability, Njuguna should be having more minds and hands to work for him,be able to trust n have faith in.
Otherwise he'll be a rich man in grave sooner than later.

Good piece bwana Marty.


True, every business should have a growth path. The proprietor cum manager model works only to a certain extent and so there is need to let go. More of this in the next post.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
Marty
#304 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:06:48 PM
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eco wrote:
Once a business breakevens and is floating, it is prudent to employ a someone to help you in managing it, and delegate proportionately to them, leaving you with abut a 1/3 of the work. Then reduce this even further with time. It feels great to see an enterprise standing while the owner of hands off. It starts by motivating your employees and teaching your clients to trust your system more that you.

@Marty, as you address your next post, what do you think about ESOP for small businesses, or is it inviting problems?

Thanks a lot for great lessons. I look forward your next post.


We'll definitely deal with this at some point.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
Marty
#305 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:16:45 PM
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Am wrote:
Marty. Really, you rock. you are simply amazing, a blessed guy. Thank you for the good work.

I know this sounds silly but The more I read your posts, I keep asking myself things like How old is Mwalimu Marty? Does he have Kids? How Many? Which church does he attend? Where does Mwalimu stay? Which High scool did he attend? Why cant' he open a college or something and teach these things? etc, etc.

God Bless you.


Mid thirties, married with 2 kids and a committed christian of the Anglican faith. Was in some nice national school somewhere off Thika rd. As to where I live, I'll leave that to imaginations. I have been toying with the idea of a school for enterpreneurs.....big call but maybe once some other systems are in place and self sustaining, maybe I'll open the school but not so much as a money making venture but as way of giving back.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
choise
#306 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:49:44 PM
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Hello am very happy with wazua forum.i must say in kenya this is the best and most real invetment forum i have come across.congrats to all those who ve made their first M before 30yrs.am 29yrs and am only worth 100k i workd at two banks and things didnt workout well so amnt workng.though i got sm 500k from a family relative to start a business.so am importing some baby staff and am hoping it really works out becoz its the only form of income that am lookng forward to i dont want formal employment.my rent food and transport are catered for.i have seen that most business start ups fail before they turn 5yrs am hoping mine will be the 10% that succeeds.I love moving abroad whether am rich or not i ve a degree and hope to start a business there but dnt have the closest ida of how ill move there dont have relatives bt have a strong desire to move there.

Also how do you know which stocks to buy and when to sell i bought the kengen shares bt never sold them now they are selling for so little bought east africa cables at 78sh and lost.and also how do i invest offshore.
last questions i have save 100k i want to buy land in kajiado for like 30k per acre is it possible and is it a good investment coz i cant afford expensive lands and i really want to buy land.
being too honest ADVICE PLEASE
Am
#307 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:46:48 AM
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I think that you need to accept yourself the way you are and have belief, plus try get priorities right. Investing the 100k that you have in a land in Kajiado is not wise to me. Probably the 100k should be Invested in a small business. my 2 cent.
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
kryptonite
#308 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:39:14 AM
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choise wrote:
Hello am very happy with wazua forum.i must say in kenya this is the best and most real invetment forum i have come across.congrats to all those who ve made their first M before 30yrs.am 29yrs and am only worth 100k i workd at two banks and things didnt workout well so amnt workng.though i got sm 500k from a family relative to start a business.so am importing some baby staff and am hoping it really works out becoz its the only form of income that am lookng forward to i dont want formal employment.my rent food and transport are catered for.i have seen that most business start ups fail before they turn 5yrs am hoping mine will be the 10% that succeeds.I love moving abroad whether am rich or not i ve a degree and hope to start a business there but dnt have the closest ida of how ill move there dont have relatives bt have a strong desire to move there.

Also how do you know which stocks to buy and when to sell i bought the kengen shares bt never sold them now they are selling for so little bought east africa cables at 78sh and lost.and also how do i invest offshore.
last questions i have save 100k i want to buy land in kajiado for like 30k per acre is it possible and is it a good investment coz i cant afford expensive lands and i really want to buy land.
being too honest ADVICE PLEASE


If your rent, food and transport are catered for and a relative has 'loaned' you 500k to start a business, why are you looking to go abroad? My take, concentrate on making the business work (sounds a like a viable one btw), keep the 100k as your rainy day umbrella.

You'll be going to start from scratch abroad without the advantages you mention above.

The harder you work, the luckier you get
eco
#309 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:40:24 PM
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choise wrote:
Hello am very happy with wazua forum.i must say in kenya this is the best and most real invetment forum i have come across.congrats to all those who ve made their first M before 30yrs.am 29yrs and am only worth 100k i workd at two banks and things didnt workout well so amnt workng.though i got sm 500k from a family relative to start a business.so am importing some baby staff and am hoping it really works out becoz its the only form of income that am lookng forward to i dont want formal employment.my rent food and transport are catered for.i have seen that most business start ups fail before they turn 5yrs am hoping mine will be the 10% that succeeds.I love moving abroad whether am rich or not i ve a degree and hope to start a business there but dnt have the closest ida of how ill move there dont have relatives bt have a strong desire to move there.

Also how do you know which stocks to buy and when to sell i bought the kengen shares bt never sold them now they are selling for so little bought east africa cables at 78sh and lost.and also how do i invest offshore.
last questions i have save 100k i want to buy land in kajiado for like 30k per acre is it possible and is it a good investment coz i cant afford expensive lands and i really want to buy land.
being too honest ADVICE PLEASE


@choise, I like your honesty, it is a strength. It shows you are real in confronting your issues as they are. About investment in either stocks or land, you will get good advice from this noble forum. Let me stick to going abroad. If you want to go for further studies, that is alright. If for other reasons, reconsider. Did you know that most immigrants in Europe, US and Canada are just hustling for a living? They may post some nice photos on facebook, but that, in most cases only cover-up of their real life. They struggle to send some dollars to relatives back in their home countries. If you happen to be a beneficiary, of course you desire to go abroad too, thinking that life is bread and butter in the diaspora. That is a fallacy! Bills need to be paid, wherever you are, and I can tell you it is easier back in Kenya where you can enterprise without limitation. Why should you leave the business you are doing (however small) to come to Europe to work in a factory like a Robot. And in some countries you cannot start a business in line you do not have qualifications! In others, you have to learn new language, except UK, US and Canada minus Quebec. I have seen guys win green card to US, leave big jobs in Kenya only to return and go through the pain of re-establishing again. You have written that you have a degree, and is already doing some 'baby stuff business'. My advice would be, work on that if that is what you like, nature it and it'll grow. Get financial education, right here at Wazua. You can't also consider Network Marketing alongside and build your own business. Later, when you succeed, you can visit abroad, but in different capacity.

Finally, before you buy the ticket, watch this.
maina20
#310 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:45:50 PM
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eco wrote:
choise wrote:
Hello am very happy with wazua forum.i must say in kenya this is the best and most real invetment forum i have come across.congrats to all those who ve made their first M before 30yrs.am 29yrs and am only worth 100k i workd at two banks and things didnt workout well so amnt workng.though i got sm 500k from a family relative to start a business.so am importing some baby staff and am hoping it really works out becoz its the only form of income that am lookng forward to i dont want formal employment.my rent food and transport are catered for.i have seen that most business start ups fail before they turn 5yrs am hoping mine will be the 10% that succeeds.I love moving abroad whether am rich or not i ve a degree and hope to start a business there but dnt have the closest ida of how ill move there dont have relatives bt have a strong desire to move there.

Also how do you know which stocks to buy and when to sell i bought the kengen shares bt never sold them now they are selling for so little bought east africa cables at 78sh and lost.and also how do i invest offshore.
last questions i have save 100k i want to buy land in kajiado for like 30k per acre is it possible and is it a good investment coz i cant afford expensive lands and i really want to buy land.
being too honest ADVICE PLEASE


@choise, I like your honesty, it is a strength. It shows you are real in confronting your issues as they are. About investment in either stocks or land, you will get good advice from this noble forum. Let me stick to going abroad. If you want to go for further studies, that is alright. If for other reasons, reconsider. Did you know that most immigrants in Europe, US and Canada are just hustling for a living? They may post some nice photos on facebook, but that, in most cases only cover-up of their real life. They struggle to send some dollars to relatives back in their home countries. If you happen to be a beneficiary, of course you desire to go abroad too, thinking that life is bread and butter in the diaspora. That is a fallacy! Bills need to be paid, wherever you are, and I can tell you it is easier back in Kenya where you can enterprise without limitation. Why should you leave the business you are doing (however small) to come to Europe to work in a factory like a Robot. And in some countries you cannot start a business in line you do not have qualifications! In others, you have to learn new language, except UK, US and Canada minus Quebec. I have seen guys win green card to US, leave big jobs in Kenya only to return and go through the pain of re-establishing again. You have written that you have a degree, and is already doing some 'baby stuff business'. My advice would be, work on that if that is what you like, nature it and it'll grow. Get financial education, right here at Wazua. You can't also consider Network Marketing alongside and build your own business. Later, when you succeed, you can visit abroad, but in different capacity.

Finally, before you buy the ticket, watch this.

very true....
..desire to succeed is always fighting with fear of failure..
Apricot
#311 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:50:35 PM
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maina20 wrote:
eco wrote:
choise wrote:
Hello am very happy with wazua forum.i must say in kenya this is the best and most real invetment forum i have come across.congrats to all those who ve made their first M before 30yrs.am 29yrs and am only worth 100k i workd at two banks and things didnt workout well so amnt workng.though i got sm 500k from a family relative to start a business.so am importing some baby staff and am hoping it really works out becoz its the only form of income that am lookng forward to i dont want formal employment.my rent food and transport are catered for.i have seen that most business start ups fail before they turn 5yrs am hoping mine will be the 10% that succeeds.I love moving abroad whether am rich or not i ve a degree and hope to start a business there but dnt have the closest ida of how ill move there dont have relatives bt have a strong desire to move there.

Also how do you know which stocks to buy and when to sell i bought the kengen shares bt never sold them now they are selling for so little bought east africa cables at 78sh and lost.and also how do i invest offshore.
last questions i have save 100k i want to buy land in kajiado for like 30k per acre is it possible and is it a good investment coz i cant afford expensive lands and i really want to buy land.
being too honest ADVICE PLEASE


@choise, I like your honesty, it is a strength. It shows you are real in confronting your issues as they are. About investment in either stocks or land, you will get good advice from this noble forum. Let me stick to going abroad. If you want to go for further studies, that is alright. If for other reasons, reconsider. Did you know that most immigrants in Europe, US and Canada are just hustling for a living? They may post some nice photos on facebook, but that, in most cases only cover-up of their real life. They struggle to send some dollars to relatives back in their home countries. If you happen to be a beneficiary, of course you desire to go abroad too, thinking that life is bread and butter in the diaspora. That is a fallacy! Bills need to be paid, wherever you are, and I can tell you it is easier back in Kenya where you can enterprise without limitation. Why should you leave the business you are doing (however small) to come to Europe to work in a factory like a Robot. And in some countries you cannot start a business in line you do not have qualifications! In others, you have to learn new language, except UK, US and Canada minus Quebec. I have seen guys win green card to US, leave big jobs in Kenya only to return and go through the pain of re-establishing again. You have written that you have a degree, and is already doing some 'baby stuff business'. My advice would be, work on that if that is what you like, nature it and it'll grow. Get financial education, right here at Wazua. You can't also consider Network Marketing alongside and build your own business. Later, when you succeed, you can visit abroad, but in different capacity.

Finally, before you buy the ticket, watch this.

very true....


@choise. Maybe hearing from one who is abroad might help your cause. Maina20 has laid out some of the stark choices you will face if you move abroad (legally). First let me give you a brief of my experience. Before I moved to the US, I had just completed a contract with an international NGO in S. Sudan. I was doing ok and that was 2001 (Kenya's economy wasn't doing so well though). I moved to the US to join my spouse. It took me a year to gain legal status. My first real shocker was that my science degree didn't matter. If it wasn't from a Western Uni, then no employer in my field gave me any serious consideration. I had to settle for retail stores (read supermarkets) jobs. I have worked for Walmart, Target and Home-Depot in positions ranging from stocking, receiving and claims processing. Odds were stacked against me and at some point I seriously considered returning home. That's never easy though when you are married and have kids. I decided to put my head down and work my way in the system. I had ambition. I sought career progression in the retail industry and pursued studies in the semi-conductor field. I have since completed my studies, and now work in the semi-conductor industry and I think I am okay. But I want to return home, so I have been investing heavily back home in the last couple of years. When I moved I was 31. It took me about 6 years to regain my footing. If I had stayed home, maybe, just maybe I would have rolled with the economic boom of the last decade. But I will never know. So what I say to people who want to emigrate is; if things are working out for you or you see opportunity ahead, stick at home. If you must emigrate, then make sure you have a way to gain legal status. Life is rough for most who are here without legal status. At 29 you have time. Take advantage of wise counsel found in this forum from the likes of Marty and many others and use it to forge a path ahead for yourself.
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#312 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 11:01:00 AM
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choise wrote:
Hello am very happy with wazua forum.i must say in kenya this is the best and most real invetment forum i have come across.congrats to all those who ve made their first M before 30yrs.am 29yrs and am only worth 100k i workd at two banks and things didnt workout well so amnt workng.though i got sm 500k from a family relative to start a business.so am importing some baby staff and am hoping it really works out becoz its the only form of income that am lookng forward to i dont want formal employment.my rent food and transport are catered for.i have seen that most business start ups fail before they turn 5yrs am hoping mine will be the 10% that succeeds.I love moving abroad whether am rich or not i ve a degree and hope to start a business there but dnt have the closest ida of how ill move there dont have relatives bt have a strong desire to move there.

Also how do you know which stocks to buy and when to sell i bought the kengen shares bt never sold them now they are selling for so little bought east africa cables at 78sh and lost.and also how do i invest offshore.
last questions i have save 100k i want to buy land in kajiado for like 30k per acre is it possible and is it a good investment coz i cant afford expensive lands and i really want to buy land.
being too honest ADVICE PLEASE


You have been advised by several people. I may not dwell on the issue of emigrating coz I don't have any experiences on that but you better listen to those who are already there.

As regards the business you are doing and it chances of success, I'd say the most important thing is to have passion for what you are doing. Get to know important info regarding the business and how best you can maneuver. You stand a higher chance of success if you invest in the relevant practical knowledge around that business.

I have a feeling that in Kenya we are experiencing exciting times as regards to availability of opportunities and it could be the best time in a long while for investors...you just need to open you eyes wide. I have a feeling you got the ingridients for success.

As regards stocks I think there is a lot of info in Wazua but be careful with what you read coz not all advise is good.

My advice regarding buying land, I guess the good time would be after you other business stabilizes and you can then channel some of the profits to land..remember land is not a liquid investment and works well when you are not in a hurry to sell. All the best and it is my prayer that you succeed in your ventures.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
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#313 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 11:30:29 AM
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Marty,i have benefited a lot.keep the thread running.
Marty
#314 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 12:40:25 PM
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Njuguna, aren’t you working too hard part 2?

Njuguna worked quite hard and he must have realized that by working harder he was doing better. He must have have gotten sucked into long working hours maybe without noticing. Most likely other areas of his life got neglected. He was most likely eating poorly and probably never exercising. If this continues unchecked the guy will run into health problems and he’ll wish that he found a better balance in his life.

The biggest error of omission or is it commission is failure to create a system that works for him. How do you create such a system? He needed to have gradually let go of his direct involvement in running the businesses:

1. You need to spot talents and build a team that shares your dream. The team will get you to your goals faster. He ought to have a manager for the hardware who deals with operational issues. The manager would probably have some sales person, procurement person, a person in charge of delivery, person in charge of receiving cash, etc. Njuguna would maybe be getting some periodic briefings and he’d probably concentrate on looking for new ventures and generally strategizing on the business and where it moves.

2. But how would Njuguna trust that these fellows won’t steal from him? He ought to create controls at different levels to assist tighten any loopholes in the system.

3. How about his land business? I see no reason why Njuguna would be chasing clerks at Kajiado when he can get someone to do such errands for him. I am sure he can afford to a person or people to take clients to site, chase documentation at lands office, chase consents with DO, etc. Most of these operational tasks need to be delegated.

4. He should also take advantage of having people in his team who specialize in some areas. The jack of all trade mentality never works well. Isn’t it better to know everything about something as opposed to knowing something small about everything?

5. At that higher level, Njuguna should be able to organize his days in such a manner that he will cover all the facets of his businesses and spare some time for his family and he should rest more. Probably eat better and exercise. That way he’ll be a more complete person.
Let’s get deeper into what Njuguna ought to be doing?

1. High Level Strategic planning : Setting realistic goals and tracking the attainment of the goals

2. Looking for new ventures and investment options: How about going around the outskirts of Nairobi and looking for land…at the state he was in..he thought that the best land deals are only found in Kitengela… How about exploring other areas where timber is available? How about expansion into new areas…replicating the Kitengela success say in Rongai or Ruiru?

3. Strengthening his team to help achieve his vision faster and spotting new talents. He can also build on the strengths of the existing staff and resolve some weaknesses.

4. Creation of sales and marketing strategies…after all his business is sales driven.

If all this is in place, I think Friday afternoon he can join a member’s club and play golf. After all this life is short and he can afford the nice things in life.

I never got the chance to talk to him and I am sure this message may have never reached him before he collapses in a heap due to exhaustion and weariness. I hope someday I’ll bump into him and talk some sense into him. I hope he can listen to me...he sounded too arrogant to listen to some young man who may not be as successful as him…That reminds me of some businessman I met who was so arrogant and was really blowing his imaginary trumpet….Next post I’ll touch on that topic.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
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Nabwire
#315 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 4:48:20 AM
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You may want to look here for advise from like minded entrepreneurs. To read articles google new york times corner office

http://www.nytimes.com/2...ging-employees.html?_r=0
wazuaguest
#316 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:06:45 AM
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I am enlightened.@Marty thanks.
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#317 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:28:06 PM
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@marty....please add me to your mailing list.....simonmaina71(at)gmail(dot)com.....i have to admit wazua is a well of knowledge....(stocksmaster+marty+others)
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#318 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:47:09 PM
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Add me to your mailing list too.pacecon2003at yahoo dotcom
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mail me too, elder@gmx.us
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