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ITS TIME TO RECONSIDER THE HANGING ACT
Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/17/2012 Posts: 23 Location: nairobi
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Yes,people the time has come. It comes as a shock to normal educated exposed people who have agreed to follow societal norms that not all of us accept these universal norms. Don't kidnap,kill,rape or steal. Nobody has been hanged since 1987 IIRC,but evidence increasingly indicates Western style liberalism isn't for a society such as ours. Get the hangman out of retirement!  Quote:Mr Jamal Maina Macharia and Mr Tom Mbugua left the dock laughing after Kibera principal magistrate Letishia Wachira released them on Sh1 million bond each with a surety in a similar amount. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/bd900ez/-/index.html
That's what I'm talking about.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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kayoh wrote:Yes,people the time has come. It comes as a shock to normal educated exposed people who have agreed to follow societal norms that not all of us accept these universal norms. Don't kidnap,kill,rape or steal. Nobody has been hanged since 1987 IIRC,but evidence increasingly indicates Western style liberalism isn't for a society such as ours. Get the hangman out of retirement!  Quote:Mr Jamal Maina Macharia and Mr Tom Mbugua left the dock laughing after Kibera principal magistrate Letishia Wachira released them on Sh1 million bond each with a surety in a similar amount. http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/bd900ez/-/index.html
That's what I'm talking about. @Kayo, this is as a result of the new constitution, the activist drafters and lobbyists had always thought that the previous prohibition of bail and bond for capital offenders was meant for political activists due to misuse of the same by the Kenyatta and MO1 regime. It is sad that the new laws have a propensity to favour the suspect and disregard the victim. The magistrates and judges need to know that victims as well have rights and need equal protection under the law. Very unfortunate, the same is seen when activists resist proactive laws such as suppression of terrorism and how it was finally watered down.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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This is what you get when separate governance from moral and ethics taught by religions. Try sharia law, just to see the effectLife is sacred, according to Islam and most other world faiths. But it still supports capital punishment. How is that?This means that one may take life only "by way of justice and law." Death penalty can be applied by a court as punishment for the most serious of crimes. Quote:Islamic philosophy holds that a harsh punishment serves as a deterrent to serious crimes that harm individual victims, or threaten to destabilize the foundation of society. According to Islamic law, the following two crimes can be punishable by death:
1. Intentional murder 2. Spreading mischief in the land such as - Treason - Terrorism - Land, sea, or air piracy - Rape - Adultery - Homosexual behavior Read onCapital punishment is mentioned in the Holy Quran as well as in the Old Testament as a form of retaliation (qisas au kulipa kisasi). " And we prescribe for them therein the life for a life, the eye for the eye, the nose for the nose, the ear for the ear, the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds of retaliation. But whosoever forgives it (in the way of charity), it shall be expiation for him. Whosoever judges not by that which God has revealed, such as wrongdoers." (Quran 5:45). A similar verse is seen in the Old Testament (Exodus 21:23-25.) In the New Testament, the law of retaliation was omitted. " You have heard it said, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say to you, do not resist one who is evil but if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:38-39). However, these New Testament verses should be interpreted in the light of another of Jesus’ statement" Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them." (Matthew 5:17).
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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I agree with you @kayoh. There was no remorse, laughing sign of contempt of court but magistrate chose to give bail. Very Sad.
Guy on the left displaying solidarity with fallen comrade shot in crime incident. Guy on the right is clearly the one who accompanied the Mpesa gunman.
Life is so unfair...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Thats the life we are living in...makes you really angry aarggghhh. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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What are you guys angry about. For a moment there I thought they had let out an accused. I'm all for justice especially in this case, but consider this issue. These are alleged to have been caught on camera, committing a crime. Yet, the prosecution and the police cannot or would not come up with an affidavit to keep them in on time. We just can't allow the prosecution and the police to be lazy because of public opinion. So if this is the type of investigations and prosecutions that go on, what about for lesser cases? The law is very clear. It's upto the prosecution to prove its case. For everyone, even Satan. That is why God still lets him run lose in the world even when God knows he will be burning a few of us later on. This is a sign of a pathetic police force who now want to get you so angry that you will ask for these guys not to make it until their next hearing. I'm very mad. But I'm not mad with the law. I'm mad with the police and the prosecution. That is where the blame squarely lies. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Even from their facial expression, there is no remorse. Nowadays, these thugs rob, rape, shoot, kill and leave laughing because they know, there is nowhere you are taking them. Within a short time, they are out on bail funded by daft relatives/friends who don’t believe they are capable of such acts and they are back on the streets carrying out the same same acts. This is worse than those atrocities of don’t be vague, Hague it is. Hangman should come back big time. Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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@King G, there is no law that provides for looking like a thug, smelling like a thug or behaving like a thug. Even laughing like a thug. Even if we hired 10,000 hangmen and had them in each village, you have to prosecute them first. Successful prosecution means that you come up with credible evidence. Evidence can only be found by proper investigations. If any of these is not there, then your 10,000 hangmen will be chewing miraa in the High Court Corridors. Be angry but be angry at the right people. In other countries, the commissioner of police would have been forced to resign and the DPP following closely after for such a shoddy job. The magistrate saved their face by giving them 1m in bond and a surety. They probably won't be able to raise that. If they do, then follow the people who raised that money for them. But keep the judiciary out of nonsensical and pathetic police and prosecution behaviour. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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King G wrote:Even from their facial expression, there is no remorse. Nowadays, these thugs rob, rape, shoot, kill and leave laughing because they know, there is nowhere you are taking them. Within a short time, they are out on bail funded by daft relatives/friends who don’t believe they are capable of such acts and they are back on the streets carrying out the same same acts. This is worse than those atrocities of don’t be vague, Hague it is. Hangman should come back big time. They will go and loot some more to recover the bail. This reminds me of jana, some thugs raided some Mpesa shops. One was caught and his head smashed with a huge stone. I looked at that bugger and laughed heartily, very inspired and somehow felt like a vampire. Hehehehehehehehehehehe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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I will offer myself to be the hangman....on part time we need to stop these buggers
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