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Behemoth
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:08:59 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Behemoth - Fear is a tricky issue for me.I approach life in a religious view and one thing I struggle with is fear though my fear is irrational and based in sin. Let me explain, Jesus told us not to worry but Solomon told us that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom and David that God doesn't like ignorance. That's where my journey of seeking humility started and attempting to give in to the will of God. I also see the irony in modern man. I can't remember the 'guru' who said it but he said something that resonated with me. Modern man has learnt to more or less cultivate and master his external world but we are no different than the cave man when it comes to the internal world(psychological and spiritual).Even Carl Jung(one of the founders of psychoanalyis) said the greatest threat of our time is not external but from internal.I'm of the opinion people are not conscious or fully aware as they should be.

@Essyk - I don't like assuming. Though in other posts you have expressed your stand I always feel it's better to clarify matters. Like you I can't sustain a good relationship unless my inner world is in a way 'balanced'. You say inner peace comes from being able to weather storms. I totally agree. In the sense that Jesus says that we should seek to be perfect like the Father in heaven is perfect. God exists beyond the concept of time so we should seek to be the same and act the same as time passes through good and bad times.


@ Chessmaster: "Worry" - "a troubled state of mind, anxiety, uneasiness distress,"- worry stems from vulnerability and powerlessness, as the result of situations such as simple shyness, depression, general anxiety disorder, distress over the actions of another, and post-traumatic stress disorder. And this is what INNER PEACE grants. Unfortunately we can never achieve the inner peace on our own.
Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
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Mukiri
#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:06:31 PM
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Do not worry about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. Philippians 4:6

Sleep out anything stressful and you might wake up to wonder what the big deal was. If I'm healthy, have a few coins and good relationships, I'm at peace.

Proverbs 19:21
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Mtu Biz
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:06:03 AM
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Inner peace ?

The only problem with any discussion of this nature is the lack of authority.By that i mean, everyone has their own version, their own truth so to speak about these matters.

Everyone cannot be right.

Imagine a society where everyone has their own interpretation of what is right and wrong,... and everyone right to their truth is protected. The result is obviously confusion and anarchy. That is why societies agree to a set of laws rules or truths if you like.

In the same way discussions of this nature result in more confusion than anything else. To @ coolio inner peace is richot brandy to @ essyk it is Jesus Christ, conclusion ? everyone should go ahead and find whatever it is they believe is their version of inner peace ?

I personally do not think inner peace is synonymous to 'feelings of well being' either from richot brandy or religion.

I believe inner peace is derived from truth, a knowledge of THE TRUTH.

My 2 kwacha.

Sola Scriptura
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mkonomtupu
#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:17:25 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:

Inner peace ?

The only problem with any discussion of this nature is the lack of authority.By that i mean, everyone has their own version, their own truth so to speak about these matters.

Everyone cannot be right.

Imagine a society where everyone has their own interpretation of what is right and wrong,... and everyone right to their truth is protected. The result is obviously confusion and anarchy. That is why societies agree to a set of laws rules or truths if you like.



This is why african society will never progress and innovate because we do not like to challenge the status quo. we are too beholden to authority...europe and asia start to take a leap forward when they started to question the long held authority starting with religious norms. That's how science and innovation came about and that's why it is lacking in Africa. We don't need authority on what is truth that's how tyranny begins and some control freaks ask you to vote for them every five years to lord over you and tell you what to do with your freedom.
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Mtu Biz
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:49:51 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:

Inner peace ?

The only problem with any discussion of this nature is the lack of authority.By that i mean, everyone has their own version, their own truth so to speak about these matters.

Everyone cannot be right.

Imagine a society where everyone has their own interpretation of what is right and wrong,... and everyone right to their truth is protected. The result is obviously confusion and anarchy. That is why societies agree to a set of laws rules or truths if you like.



This is why african society will never progress and innovate because we do not like to challenge the status quo. we are too beholden to authority...europe and asia start to take a leap forward when they started to question the long held authority starting with religious norms. That's how science and innovation came about and that's why it is lacking in Africa. We don't need authority on what is truth that's how tyranny begins and some control freaks ask you to vote for them every five years to lord over you and tell you what to do with your freedom.


@mkono

You misunderstand what i mean by authority.

When i say lack of authority is the problem in such discussions, i mean the lack of an authoritative source of truth.
You and i cannot be the source of authoritative truth on such a topic as inner peace? neither can governments or religions and iam not proposing we look to government or religion for truth.

You should also have included the 2nd part of my post (below)...for context.


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In the same way discussions of this nature result in more confusion than anything else. To @ coolio inner peace is richot brandy to @ essyk it is Jesus Christ, conclusion ? everyone should go ahead and find whatever it is they believe is their version of inner peace ?

I personally do not think inner peace is synonymous to 'feelings of well being' either from richot brandy or religion.

I believe inner peace is derived from truth, a knowledge of THE TRUTH.

My 2 kwacha.





Sola Scriptura
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tycho
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:25:05 AM
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tycho wrote:
I experienced depression for twenty or so years, but now I tell myself I am in heaven. I have inner peace.

For me it was a long journey of faith, storm and stress.

But, how everything took a turn is beyond rational expression. And now that I am thinking of it, I realize that this matter must be irrational, and illogical. It must involve speaking in tongues. Like Buddha's expression with the lotus.

If I were to describe inner peace, I'd say it is dancing with God. Being the Man God.


I asked for it, and it was given to me.
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essyk
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:43:37 AM
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I personally do not think inner peace is synonymous to 'feelings of well being' either from richot brandy or religion.

I believe inner peace is derived from truth, a knowledge of THE TRUTH.


Wiki def: Inner peace refers to a state of being mentally and spiritually at peace, with enough knowledge and understanding to keep oneself strong in the face of discord or stress.

That knowledge and understanding is what you refer to as truth.
So what is 'your truth'?
Is that truth Subjective or Objective?

This is how I would define it to suit 'me'.

Inner peace refers to a state of being mentally and spiritually at peace, with enough TRUTH (God's word) to keep oneself strong in the face of discord or stress.

Now,If you asked me,I would say that 'My truth' is objective.I know some will argue and say that it is subjective, but not this truth.(Word).
That debate suits the aethists and agnostics thread.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Mtu Biz
#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:49:38 AM
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Let me conclude my thought.

The only authoritative source of truth, and this is open to rational logical verification is The Bible.

You do not need to be a scholar to arrive at THE Truth. It is already revealed in two ways.

1. In the vastness, diversity and order of nature and the known universe.
2. In the holy scriptures of The Bible.

One way to prove that the bible is indeed THE authoritative source of Truth is prophecy.

The bible is about 28% prophecy all of which historically and in present times have come to pass with pinpoint precision.

The bible reveals to all who care to listen the Truth about.
1. Where we have come from.
2. What happens when we die.
3. Eternity
4. Purpose
etc

What about Nostradamus?
All of his so called prophecies read like the horoscope, nothing specific.

All other religious systems and books at many points hang their 'truths' on the authority of The Bible.
Sola Scriptura
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essyk
#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:55:02 AM
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Ham hasn't seen this thread?
Wacha he will come to scatter everything we have said.Laughing out loudly
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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tycho
#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:50:08 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:

Inner peace ?

I believe inner peace is derived from truth, a knowledge of THE TRUTH.

My 2 kwacha.




Yes. And truth is being.

One may say truth is Scripture or a certain doctrine but to stop there is to make a fatal mistake.

The Myth must be a living 'thing'. That is one must realize that God is alive and that he is speaking now.

If you can hear his voice then your being transforms and you become, Him.

And you get the power to name; you spring to life full of ecstasy; joy beyond belief. Every time you are bubbling with energy like a child.

How does it feel to know that you can do all things? And not just all things, but that you are floating on/in love!

There's no time for solemn lectures. No somber moods, fake smiles, 'good manners'. Ah! Why am I mentioning these things?

Every 'one' gets to sing his/her song; yet it's all the same song! Truth is both relative and absolute. The relative is the absolute.

There's nothing to be feared. Yet one has every thing.

Peace is being.
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