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Nairobi Half Life - movie Gay agenda??
kollabo
#1 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2012 11:56:44 AM
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Has anyone watched this movie? Just seen the trailer and it looks really good but people are claiming it is propagating an LGBT agenda. The movie was funded by the German embassy.
mkeiyd
#2 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2012 12:08:52 PM
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kollabo wrote:
Has anyone watched this movie? Just seen the trailer and it looks really good but people are claiming it is propagating an LGBT agenda. The movie was funded by the German embassy.


@kollabo, Care to expound?
kollabo
#3 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2012 1:05:22 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
kollabo wrote:
Has anyone watched this movie? Just seen the trailer and it looks really good but people are claiming it is propagating an LGBT agenda. The movie was funded by the German embassy.


@kollabo, Care to expound?


Here is the trailer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRjBLAnx2jU

...your thoughts?
ruby
#4 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2012 3:15:37 PM
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I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.
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#5 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2012 3:50:43 PM
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A review of 8.9 in IDMB is pretty good, I need to watch it!!!!
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:46:49 PM
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Kenya has for the first time submitted its own candidate for an Oscar award for Best Foreign-Language Film, the US Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced on Monday.

"Nairobi Half Life," directed by David "Tosh" Gitonga, will compete with films from 70 other countries for the five nominations in this category.

http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/dp8e3jz/-/index.html
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tom karani
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:24:05 PM
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I watched the movie. There's a scene where the main character talks about leading a double life. The (gay?) guy he is talking to misinterprets this as an internal am-I-gay-or-not conflict and therefore tries to get cozy with him. The main character immediately rejects the advances, and the story moves on swiftly.

This scene is only about 2 minutes of the entire movie. How does this make the movie be construed as propagating an LGBT agenda? Or did I miss something?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:46:35 PM
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A must watch!!!
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#9 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:12:47 PM
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ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?

Proverbs 19:21
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#10 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:26:25 PM
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#11 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:17:05 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?
Mukiri
#12 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:45:57 PM
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MrTyrus wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?


Unfortunately I've had a few... well, maybe alot, but that is not the contentious issue here. Why give men, women's names? Do they consider the consequences? Is their anger and hurt justified? Isn't this grievous psychological harm on a child, irrespective of what happened to the mother? Do two wrongs make a right?

Proverbs 19:21
murchr
#13 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:12:40 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?


Unfortunately I've had a few... well, maybe alot, but that is not the contentious issue here. Why give men, women's names? Do they consider the consequences? Is their anger and hurt justified? Isn't this grievous psychological harm on a child, irrespective of what happened to the mother? Do two wrongs make a right?


You want them to be called what? Your name? There are people who would not want a man's name esp if they were brought up by a woman. What's in a name anyway? And why should someone else's name bother you? What consequences are you talking about?

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mukiri
#14 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:54:39 PM
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murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?


Unfortunately I've had a few... well, maybe alot, but that is not the contentious issue here. Why give men, women's names? Do they consider the consequences? Is their anger and hurt justified? Isn't this grievous psychological harm on a child, irrespective of what happened to the mother? Do two wrongs make a right?


You want them to be called what? Your name? There are people who would not want a man's name esp if they were brought up by a woman. What's in a name anyway? And why should someone else's name bother you? What consequences are you talking about?



Now, this is a 'Don't care' attitude and its not right!

I've done a google and this are a few links
http://theweek.com/artic...influence-our-destinies
http://www.mmtimes.com/no379/t001.htm
http://englishwithjohn.n...me-influence-your-life/
http://open.salon.com/bl...ence_our_dating_choices

Proverbs 19:21
murchr
#15 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 12:38:41 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?


Unfortunately I've had a few... well, maybe alot, but that is not the contentious issue here. Why give men, women's names? Do they consider the consequences? Is their anger and hurt justified? Isn't this grievous psychological harm on a child, irrespective of what happened to the mother? Do two wrongs make a right?


You want them to be called what? Your name? There are people who would not want a man's name esp if they were brought up by a woman. What's in a name anyway? And why should someone else's name bother you? What consequences are you talking about?



Now, this is a 'Don't care' attitude and its not right!

I've done a google and this are a few links
http://theweek.com/artic...influence-our-destinies
http://www.mmtimes.com/no379/t001.htm
http://englishwithjohn.n...me-influence-your-life/
http://open.salon.com/bl...ence_our_dating_choices


I will not open any of the links because its all hogwash. The man is called Joseph, Samuel etc but he prides to have his mothers name as his second name. Just to honor the mother.

Africans have had a different naming culture from the west and there is nothing wrong with it. This atttude that was introduced by the west insinuating that anything African is evil is just wrong. We are all unique and in humanity, there's no "one fits all solution" and am so glad its not that way otherwise life would be very boring.
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Mukiri
#16 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:03:23 AM
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Hogwash, is it? You might have a case against the west, however a new born might have little or any say about its name. I highly doubt a youngster tormented by his peers about his name, would want to see things your way. Nor would a man emotionally traumatized.

The one thing that the man is reminded, everytime his feminine name is mentioned, is that his mother has sex out of wedlock (God forbid it was rape) and chose to remind him and the world, every day of his life! And whats more, such a parent is bound to be bitter at men, would probably keep the child away from his father or any father-figure.

Question, once this Nairobi Half-life star blows up, will it be a case of 'same script different cast' with Wanjiru?

Proverbs 19:21
murchr
#17 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 5:23:01 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Hogwash, is it? You might have a case against the west, however a new born might have little or any say about its name. I highly doubt a youngster tormented by his peers about his name, would want to see things your way. Nor would a man emotionally traumatized.

The one thing that the man is reminded, everytime his feminine name is mentioned, is that his mother has sex out of wedlock (God forbid it was rape) and chose to remind him and the world, every day of his life! And whats more, such a parent is bound to be bitter at men, would probably keep the child away from his father or any father-figure.

Question, once this Nairobi Half-life star blows up, will it be a case of 'same script different cast' with Wanjiru?


You must have undergone a really bad childhood if you were not a bully in sch. You fail to understand that your name can have a totally different meaning to another set of people. There is a soviet band called KINO, ofcourse you'd never buy its music.

What are u? a test-tube baby? Who was not born of a woman? How sure are u that the man u call your dad indeed is your father? Many men shoot blanks and women out of love go out to get eggs so as to cover their mans shame, so how sure are u that you aint one of them? Truth is many men are liars and deserters. Walk around in Kenya and you will come across so many men who impregnated young girls with the promise to marry them but did not. Others could not handle a woman and a child and they just walked away and vanished on realizing that she is pregnant. Does that man have any right to be called a parent? Its even worse if you are to name your child after him, the lady might just end up hating his kid. You need to respect every single parent because relationships are not guaranteed. Thank God you had a constant father figure in your life, and don't look at others like trash, children born out of infidelity. I know so many men who took up their mothers name and are a big success. Afterall, there mothers brought them up, would u rather they were named after a man they had never seen?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mukiri
#18 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 9:02:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Hogwash, is it? You might have a case against the west, however a new born might have little or any say about its name. I highly doubt a youngster tormented by his peers about his name, would want to see things your way. Nor would a man emotionally traumatized.

The one thing that the man is reminded, everytime his feminine name is mentioned, is that his mother has sex out of wedlock (God forbid it was rape) and chose to remind him and the world, every day of his life! And whats more, such a parent is bound to be bitter at men, would probably keep the child away from his father or any father-figure.

Question, once this Nairobi Half-life star blows up, will it be a case of 'same script different cast' with Wanjiru?


You must have undergone a really bad childhood if you were not a bully in sch. You fail to understand that your name can have a totally different meaning to another set of people. There is a soviet band called KINO, ofcourse you'd never buy its music.

What are u? a test-tube baby? Who was not born of a woman? How sure are u that the man u call your dad indeed is your father? Many men shoot blanks and women out of love go out to get eggs so as to cover their mans shame, so how sure are u that you aint one of them? Truth is many men are liars and deserters. Walk around in Kenya and you will come across so many men who impregnated young girls with the promise to marry them but did not. Others could not handle a woman and a child and they just walked away and vanished on realizing that she is pregnant. Does that man have any right to be called a parent? Its even worse if you are to name your child after him, the lady might just end up hating his kid. You need to respect every single parent because relationships are not guaranteed. Thank God you had a constant father figure in your life, and don't look at others like trash, children born out of infidelity. I know so many men who took up their mothers name and are a big success. Afterall, there mothers brought them up, would u rather they were named after a man they had never seen?


My childhood was actually great! And I'd love other kids to have a great one too. But you speak volumes about what your mother did. Not to personalize this, let her name him after her father or grandfather or a man who's character she admires. And more importantly stop getting children out of wedlock!

Proverbs 19:21
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#19 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 10:12:28 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?


Unfortunately I've had a few... well, maybe alot, but that is not the contentious issue hereIt is a contentious issue when a full grown man like one mukiri accepts to have had a few and he doesn't have an idea if there are some of his kids out there with women names. Why give men, women's names? Do they consider the consequences?Which consequences? I cant believe you just asked that? Is their anger and hurt justified? Isn't this grievous psychological harm on a child, irrespective of what happened to the mother? Do two wrongs make a right? No they don't and their are you making it right by blaming the mother of the kids you sired and don't know from naming them after themselves because you don't care whether they eat or not.


OOh and for your info' they may suffer from psychological harm but they are better than living with a man who is just trousers.
kenmac
#20 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 11:42:10 AM
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Ngogoyo wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ruby wrote:
I watched the movie and loved it. Its better than all the previous local productions that i have watched. In some scenes it has some deep sheng (they've translated). i did not see anything that would suggested its LGBT driven.



Where did you watch it?

Joseph WAIRIMU? RIP Samuel WANJIRU? Do some women have to tell the whole world they fornicated/Adultered?


Really??? @Mukiri...judging from the world as it is now dont u think its easiest for a man to lead a woman to do what u have quoted? (fornication/adultery). and what better resolute than what those women have done? we men like blaming it on women coz over time we have made them voiceless but this is a new world. @Mukiri? what is the big elephant u r hiding? how many fornications and adulteries have u had?


Unfortunately I've had a few... well, maybe alot, but that is not the contentious issue hereIt is a contentious issue when a full grown man like one mukiri accepts to have had a few and he doesn't have an idea if there are some of his kids out there with women names. Why give men, women's names? Do they consider the consequences?Which consequences? I cant believe you just asked that? Is their anger and hurt justified? Isn't this grievous psychological harm on a child, irrespective of what happened to the mother? Do two wrongs make a right? No they don't and their are you making it right by blaming the mother of the kids you sired and don't know from naming them after themselves because you don't care whether they eat or not.


OOh and for your info' they may suffer from psychological harm but they are better than living with a man who is just trousers.



Let people use whichever name they like. btw, it depends on where you come from. for example; the name CHEPKWONY means that the child belongs to a mother married by a gogo in kalenjin. Am yet to hear of any complaint that they should not use the name chepkwony.

In kikuyu, one is always named after a relative (the middle name) and the surname always belongs to the parent. e.g. Samuel Kamau Wanjiru has a choice to say samuel kamau.
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