...@essyk do you know christans who practice what they preach,they are humble,do not put money first in whatever they do,they practice honesty and or of upright character??

...coz we arent true christians,we are fakes,the threshold of being a true christian has never been lowered,the same standard that Jesus himself set should be the same standard we all need to follow but we dont...love iznt for christians only,there are hindus who practice true,unblemished love,buddhists,muslims and others...

d32 - I agree with you,love and truth are the most important things.
faa - What is the difference between an educated and a learned person?
richdad - Love eludes everyone equally(the rich,poor,middleclass).
quicksand and mukiri - You're right.love is the hardest thing you have to work for but I believe the most rewarding and no it doesn't contradict with love being unselfish.

My other opinions:
Essyk - Even in the slums,there expectations of galleria and movies based on the positions they are in.It doesn't change because you're poor.

Man is influenced by her/his environment. Society dictates culture and is the base standard of expectations from an individual. Next is community, friends, extended and nuclear family all bearing influence on the individual with different degrees of influence in different societies. The last influential person is the individual. There is a reason most mainstream religions call for one to forsake him/herself. But no matter what religion anyone believes in there can only be one truth for all.Doesn't mean I know it.


Campus divas - Yes it is society(world level). They act in a way that's not only accepted but rewarded in our society. There has been a lot of research done on the effect of media on people's perception on love, weigh(and weight disorders), everything....google it. Don't like to be religious but Jesus said let those who have eyes and ears. The basic sensory organs used to obtain information and affect our perception.Perception is reality to the individual,what you believe is what you live. You might not believe it but media(tv,radio,internet,magazines...) dictates a lot of the worlds beliefs on many matters to a point its scary.


In the past to some extent you could survive solely of the land.Today money is directly linked to both survival and future aspirations of the individual both strong emotional triggers. So it's easy to see why love takes a back seat,it's really seems like an extra burden from the outside.

Essyk - In stages of transition college,work,marriage,kids...people change(and we all have seen breakups as ppl enter and leave these stages).In college with the freedom and coming of age,there are a good number of the principles you believed in which come to the test and being principled is hard.It's easier to just fit in.The nail that stands out gets hammered,lol. Also, times wears down things. Time will also challenge you're principles and love. As someone said you have with love as well as principles you've got to remind and renew it.If its precious and important you protect it.

A fascinating book on the relation of people and money is called the secret language of money by David Krueger.Simply enlightening. A link to media effects on people.Disney's influence on females perception on gender and love

eassyk





The christian experience is inseparable from the scripture, therefore, it is inevitable that the scriptures be consulted for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Humans cannot outsmart God, history is there to prove, and if one believes otherwise, let them go a head and exercise their free will. All failure begins with departing from counsel, which results in wrecks in the shorelines of time, hence when looking back, it can be traced to the point of departure from principle.

The principles are true to all humans.

Doing certain things out of ignorance will not prevent the effects of ignorance from manifesting, such as a smoker who smokes in ignorance, not knowing the negative effects - will experience the negative effects that were caused by smoking. This is why all must be knowledgeable before marriage, and continue to gain while in marriage.

Psalms
119: 9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.
119:10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.
119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

John
10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Again,

If the whole society is not in accord with God's ideals, will you still stand for the truth? Just like Daniel?

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In addition to maka's contribution about unbelievers loving:

The graces of God are experienced by all. Matt 5:45 "... he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.". And this is how unbelievers are able to love, despite them not acknowledging the deity.

Christians will not be the only people in heaven. There will be individuals who will hear the story of Jesus for the very first time while in heaven. How is this so?

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked

This means that God judges individuals based on the light that they have received, He will not expect something from someone, who does not know any better. This means that God honors and accepts the worship of none Christians who wholeheartedly, worship what they believe to be God and live principled to what they believe to be true, while He winks at ignorance, He will deal justly with the none ignorant. He will not honor a professed believer who, while knowing the way, chooses to go another, such as not obeying wholeheartedly or being irreverent.

The bible is filled with example after example of failures the are a result of disregarding God's counsel Failure occurs when individuals take the helm, instead of letting the word take it's rightful position.

Taking the helm instead of letting the word take it's rightful position is why Lucifer fell, it's why Adam and Eve fell, it's why many individuals in bible history fell, and it is why professed believers will and are are falling.

wow! me thinks there should be a wazua church board.Kumbe hapa kuna watu wanalike God.