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Kenya Debt Watch
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#161 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:29:30 AM
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One would think the falling inflation determines the direction of tbills. However I still feel the inflation rate in the neighbourhood of 5% is high. Last year rates were very high and looking at how inflation is arrived at I would be carefull. I hope the inflation rate stabilises in the coming year and beyond.
mwekez@ji
#162 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:02:06 AM
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Moody’s sees investor boost in Kenya sovereign bond plan

http://www.businessdailyafrica....4/-/15ijp0a/-/index.html

sovereign bond would be used to retire the syndicated loan, as the former is expected to be cheaper.
the deal
#163 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 9:18:03 PM
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GoK domestic debt just inches away from the Ksh1 trillion mark wooow http://www.centralbank.g...flation20-october205.pdf
Scubidu
#164 Posted : Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:56:06 PM
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hisah wrote:
Btw now that Le prof has signalled the debt distress, how will tbill yields remain sub 10%... Will yields go back to 20%? A nightmare that would be...


apparently the governor said that article was rubbish and he didn't say anything of the sort. I think in this case we have poor journalism.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#165 Posted : Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:59:17 PM
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[quote=the deal]GoK domestic debt just inches away from the Ksh1 trillion mark wooow http://www.centralbank.g...lation20-october205.pdf[/quote]

What's more amazing is that the average maturity of Kenyan debt rose from 4 years 9 months to 5 years 2 months in a week due to the issue of a 15yr bond. Goes to show how much of an effect borrowing on the long end of the curve has on the maturity profile of national debt - we've got a 3 month extension.

We can't ignore that we have downward trending inflation and increased liquidity, which ordinary should make it cheaper for Treasury to borrow. But the fundamental don't make sense here. Bond yields are rising purely because of demand for borrowing to finance our huge public sector. This is just to finance the wage bill, which should lead to greater inflation during an election year (we'd hope no money printing or devaluation of shilling compounds the situation).

I shudder to think the effect on interest rates when we fully implement all the devolution structures, when taxes are insufficient to fund the new infrastructure. The CBK O/D is already maxed out, they can't print.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
hisah
#166 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:01:05 AM
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Scubidu wrote:
hisah wrote:
Btw now that Le prof has signalled the debt distress, how will tbill yields remain sub 10%... Will yields go back to 20%? A nightmare that would be...


apparently the governor said that article was rubbish and he didn't say anything of the sort. I think in this case we have poor journalism.

Poor journalism has been cited too many a times...
Anyway, I can see tbills are getting undersubscribed and rates edged up above 10% for 182 day bill. Yields are quietly reversing the slide...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Scubidu
#167 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2012 2:10:43 PM
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hisah wrote:
Scubidu wrote:
hisah wrote:
Btw now that Le prof has signalled the debt distress, how will tbill yields remain sub 10%... Will yields go back to 20%? A nightmare that would be...


apparently the governor said that article was rubbish and he didn't say anything of the sort. I think in this case we have poor journalism.

Poor journalism has been cited too many a times...
Anyway, I can see tbills are getting undersubscribed and rates edged up above 10% for 182 day bill. Yields are quietly reversing the slide...


@hisah. Off course Prof justifies his statements with debt to GDP. Unfortunately it looks like keeping a balanced budget is close to impossible this year which means that they have raise the yield curve to fund fiscal spending. You can see the momentum in Tbill rates is reflected in the repo rate as well, particularly with the term action deposit facility. Over the last 2 weeks they've risen 150-190bps to 9.8%-10% levels. But what happens between December 2012 to April 2013 when 110 billion worth of bonds mature he's going to have to jack up bond yields.

So it's likely we're not going to see any major cut in the CBR going forward, becoz he can't afford to do so. If his hands aren't tied by the budget stress (Teachers payments) then it's by liquidity management (repo) and debt repayments (bond redemptions). Not a good position to be in as governor.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
hisah
#168 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2012 2:31:19 PM
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Scubidu wrote:
hisah wrote:
Scubidu wrote:
hisah wrote:
Btw now that Le prof has signalled the debt distress, how will tbill yields remain sub 10%... Will yields go back to 20%? A nightmare that would be...


apparently the governor said that article was rubbish and he didn't say anything of the sort. I think in this case we have poor journalism.

Poor journalism has been cited too many a times...
Anyway, I can see tbills are getting undersubscribed and rates edged up above 10% for 182 day bill. Yields are quietly reversing the slide...


@hisah. Off course Prof justifies his statements with debt to GDP. Unfortunately it looks like keeping a balanced budget is close to impossible this year which means that they have raise the yield curve to fund fiscal spending. You can see the momentum in Tbill rates is reflected in the repo rate as well, particularly with the term action deposit facility. Over the last 2 weeks they've risen 150-190bps to 9.8%-10% levels. But what happens between December 2012 to April 2013 when 110 billion worth of bonds mature he's going to have to jack up bond yields.

So it's likely we're not going to see any major cut in the CBR going forward, becoz he can't afford to do so. If his hands aren't tied by the budget stress (Teachers payments) then it's by liquidity management (repo) and debt repayments (bond redemptions). Not a good position to be in as governor.

Dilemma here for Le prof. Tough call this especially when those bonds mature and at the height of the election campaigns...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#169 Posted : Friday, October 12, 2012 1:17:13 PM
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Tbill yield still edging up while undersubscription still persists...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Scubidu
#170 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 9:31:04 PM
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hisah wrote:
Tbill yield still edging up while undersubscription still persists...


@hisah. There's about 43 billion in repo maturities this week versus Tbill auction of 8 billion and repo yielding higher. 7-day up today from 9.30% to 9.68%, so what else can we expect when CB mops up all the liquidity on OMO. They give the impression that there's demand for borrowing so the cost of borrowing must follow. Interference by CB affecting fiscal policy in order to keep the shilling protected. So now we have over 43 billion outstanding in repos. That's a lot of KES so CB can't leave the repo market just yet either.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
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