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hamburglar
#131 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:57:13 PM
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drzhivago wrote:
drzhivago wrote:
[quote=hamburglar][quote=drzhivago]I would engage you but judging from this post and my other experiences reading your other posts, you never make any sense, so I leave you and your mumbo jumbo ramblings alone....Ramble on....


Laughing out loudly
this @tycho is really having fun with you and i can tell he's enjoying it. he makes no sense to you coz he's coming from a level that's deeper than you can fathom. he could tell you more but then you'd totally find yourself in knots



DrZhago (sorry to butcher your handle, i didn't catch your name....But it's not that important as long as we don't miss the Dr at the beginning of your handle, right? smile ), I would like to first congratulate you on your academic achievements and your distinction as a Dr....Good for you....I am always happy when my fellow man achieves lofty goals in life and I am genuinely happy for you...I truely mean it....Right off the bat, I want to let you know that I don't know jack about quantum physics...I will not even front to know the first thing about epigenetics or junk DNA and am fine with that....I am glad that you are so well versed in that regard, so more power to you....That stuff is just not in my plans to learn but if I ever do learn, I will be thrilled to know Godel's theorem and all the other stuff that you put on blast for everybody to see.....When I do happy hour tomorrow, I will have a drink to that...Those are some big words spot, you are the "MAN" :) ..lol..Dude, who you are trading barbs here with is a very confident guy that can't be shaken.....So if your think that you have rattled me with talk about your scientific audiences and "esteemed" colleagues (but do I say), you are sorely mistaken......Infact, I find it rather amusing that you had to pull stuff out of your ass to try and prove a point...

So, ahem, the Dr on your handle is only your first degree???Only your first degreee???Must be nice...lol...So, if you don't mind, and this is only if you don't mind, would you care to indulge us a bit on your second, third, fourth, seventeenth and twenty eigth degrees? What are those in? Do you have any degrees in Big talk? Makofi kwako, maybe you need a round of applause for you achievements...When I grow up, I want to be just like you....Laughing out loudly

But just to let you know, all that stuff you mentioned above comes off as bragging, almost like you have a chip on your shoulder and are ostensibly trying to show how educated you are by using it as a thin veil on a thread about religion, but then again, I have seen people with PHD's that are what we call educated fools....People like you confuse education and intelligence....You can throw around all the fancy words you know about quantum physics to show people on wazua just how "deep" and educated you are, but guys like me are hard to impress...

Like I said, it would take a lot to faze me my friend....So, knock yourself out, show us more quantum physics.....Academia is good, but don't let that get into your head and think that you are better than everybody else....For your information, I am a CFA....I got my MBA at Wharton Business School through a program that was sponsored by E & Y when I was working there....I make a really good living....Anybody that knows anything about CFA's will tell you that we are not too shabby. A few people on wazua know me personally and they know that I am the most grounded person around...

I can throw around big words associated with my line of work too, just like you did, but that would only make me sound foolish, right?.....Maybe one day we will have a competition to see who has the biggest words in their vocabulary,:) but until that day, I will not exhaust you with any big words, I know you have better things to do at your research lab....hehehehehe....Education is good but that is not what defines me as a human being...What defines me is what I do for my fellow man...I am not militant at all, infact I am very civil and tolerant, you guys can take my comments with a grain of salt, that’s the essence of free speech….Some people will see where I am coming from and some will not but I will still keep posting my views to those who find value in them.....

Listen dude, I have been very successful both formally and informally...let's just say that you would be hard pressed to fnd anybody in my age group that has achieved more financial success than me and I apologize to anyone who might find this offensive or see it as a brag, but even with what I have achieved, I still understand that with success comes responsibility…..That stuff is all material, what matters s what you do with it at the end of the day…..I have a responsibility to take care of my fellow man that might not be as fortunate as I have been....I sponsor kids and pay school fees in Kenya for so many kids than I care to share with anybody about, because I have a deep deep desire to serve unfortunate kids….I will be in Kenya in January to get my Children’s home building off the ground and maybe we can even have a drink and talk about how we can help the kids…....Ama? :) ..I have the land I have the funds now I just need to get things rolling and that is what I care about more than anything in this world, more than this little fight that we have here or anything else that anybody thinks about me….The only reason that you guys are ganging up against me and why people on this website hate my guts is because I am an atheist…..That’s the bottom line, but then again, that’s theists for you, they call themselves children of god and yet I have been banned from so may theists homes and am not even offended…Same theists are most welcome in my home….But I digress....If you come here and tell me that you are doing something for mankind instead of coming here to brag about your expertise in quantum physics, I might respect you....You and tycho can impress each other with big words and throw YesuWangu into that mix too....We get it, you guys are educated, you have a way with words, you know all the fancy words and are "deep", I can hardly pronounce some of the words that you said in your post, lol, but that just proves to me what I already suspected about you and tycho……You are not really trying to give any valuable input into this website, you are hear to showboat your “deep” conversation…lol….You did impress YesuWangu and now she is also falling over herself trying to sound intellectual with big words that really don’t mean anything in the long run other than proving a “look at me, I know big words and am kicking hamburgalr’s ass with the fancy words” complex….lol…very impressive, just not to me, maybe to some impressionable folks around here....That just shows how much of an inferiority complex you guys have….That chip will make you keel over if you are not careful.....it's really hard to faze me, I might be young but I have seen way bigger things than all your fancy quantum physics combined....You are what I call small minds....Always ready to show people how much education you have while in reality nobody cares a...Show me how many kids you have helped, how many homeless people you have assisted, what your plans for humanity are and I will be impressed….That is the essence of life, maybe you should try it sometime....But until then, you, YesuWangu and Tycho can continue impressing each other with fancy words and quantum physics, while the rest of us use simple language to communicate our help to the needy.....

Like you said, I don't understand shit that tycho talks about and I know a lot of people here echo my sentiments and think that this tycho fellow should be in some sort of mental facility, but that’s just me....Your deepness , lol, doesn’t bother me one bit because if that is the "deep" level that you guys are on, then good for you, I am very very fine with my depth....My depth has made me very very successful and I don’t have any desire to get to your ,ahem, pompous “look at me” depth….But don’t stop now, you are impressing a lot of people, you even have people like that philanga character coming out of the woodworks to claim his piece of the “lynch hamburglar” pie.....Only thing is that, I am wayyyyyyy ahead of the game fellas, I don’t sweat the small stuff, I am on a different level…I know what my purpose in life is so I don’t care what you or any of the lynchmob on wazua think….Metaphorically, am a corporation so kiosks don’t bother me. Take your best shots ladies and gentlemen, I look forward to your big words and more quantum physics lessons…
hamburglar
#132 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:51:53 PM
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tycho wrote:
@hamburglar, I have done, and I have all these things you have asked.

And, this is not the first time
I am meeting an atheist with good things for me. Kindly accept my regards.

Your emphasis on fire has brought me many thoughts. In fact the voices in my head have been crying, 'Prometheus unbound!' And not until you came could I understand them.

You are the boy with the magnifying glass trying to disrupt the ant colony. You like burning people and things with your word, the magnifying glass.

But here is your defeat. I know you. I have embraced your being and now you have nothing else to do than burn yourself to the last bit. I say this in tears, for surely I love you! You are me!

But is it not time for a new world of the Man God being fully conscious of himself?

Why is my mind filled with crying and wailing? '. . . Do you remember the days of slavery?' Why am I crying?

See, the world is full of conflict, and pain. Is this how things are supposed to be? Behold we are Man God, and we only have to speak, and it shall be done!@

Let us all break all barriers and chains by realizing that we are one.

And let us establish a new world of peace, love and consciousness for all.

Surely, what doesn't the Man God have? Isn't every thing possible for him?

Let us all speak!






Honestly tycho, I don't understand what you are going on about..I am lost, you sound like you might need to double your dosage or something dude.Your friends call it "deep" thoughts but I think you have some mental issues that might need psychiatric evaluation....But then again, maybe am just not getting your "depth" as I have been so abptly told here, lol....

If you consider yourself sane and want to have a discourse with me or any sane person for that matter, maybe you should start posting sense....Is there any way you could just speak in literal terms? I don't understand what you are wailing and crying about, lol, we are trying to discuss religion or lack thereof so if you could stop wailing and crying for a minute and start making sense we might be able to get somewhere...You guys fail to use reason and try to change the topic to semantics and vocabulary....

Just to remind you, the topic was about proof of the existance of god, not about the crying and wailing stuff you are posting....Does your god exist? and if he does, is there any way you guys can tell him to give us a cure for cancer? yes or no tycho, stop dancing around the question with your inane wailing and crying rhetoric...It's a simple yes or no answer, I am not interested in remembering the days of slavery, I wasn't there and slavery is behind us, so stop answer the question, yes or no....can this god guy stop the kids from starving to death? yes or no...If yes, then what do we need to do to make him do it? If no, then maybe you and your ilk should dismiss him as a fraud and start using some logic....The stuff I posted above was in jest, hyperbole that was supposed to just be a dig on your weird posts, but I guess I am dealing with a short bus case here who doesn't get it....

Stop trying to sound impressive, you sound like a dolt with that nonsense you keep posting.... It's comical, it's like a "who shot John" conversation..I don't even read your stuff anymore because it elicits a lot of WTF moments from me.....lol...and even though a lot of people here will not openly say it because of their disdain for me for being an atheist, I know that am not the only person who gets a headache from trying to read your crap...

The reason that I fear that you might be insane is that you actually took time to answer my post with the questions about your sanity that was obviously in jest.....You have to be insane to try and rationalize and answer a post that is aimed at sarcasm...Or maybe you just get a high when you post your usual jebberish? It's really creepy.....I honestly think you just don't have a social compass and have zero sense of humor...You need to get out more dude, you sound like some nutcase.
YesuWangu
#133 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 9:31:54 AM
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Ha!

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, I think we finally have some traction. And I for one am not willing to let up.

I have no apologies to make for my knowledge of the language I express myself in. Should I express myself in grunts to please someone?

What we have here is nothing but a tantrum against the Bible. Nothing more. All the 'luxuriant foilage of arguments' used against the christians, (or is it the Bible?) have become nothing more than 'slippery stems' when confronted with pseudo-christian arguments.

Yaani, so long as you do not mention 'Bible' then there is absolutely nothing that can be brought against you, except maybe names.

No wonder all the cavil and personal attacks on those who point this out and the shifting of goal posts. (Cavil = a statement that is not literally false but that cleverly avoids an unpleasant truth.)

YesuWangu
#134 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 9:35:07 AM
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It is not about God. It was never about God. Tycho, continue applying pressure (albeit of a different new-age kind, lol).

I am only sad that I had to go back and dig up and unleash an old new-age card to reveal this. But then again, as he was strongly fortified against bible arguments nothing but a pseudo / non-bible, perspective could bring it crumbling down.

No wonder that atheist friend of mine was hesitant to engage the new-agers and the pseudo-christians, he had nothing he could use against them. It was going to be a walk over, they were going to make short work of him and he knew it!

The tantrum and circular reasoning of 'children die because maybe there is no God, therefore there definitely is no God because children die' has already been dismissed by thinkers (not necessarily christian at that) as a fallacy in logic.

An indictment on one who claims logic is ones cornerstone. Nonetheless, it is almost all we get to hear and read about.

It just feels like KDF in Kismayu ................ only fools, indeed rush in. The bark and growl is much much worse than the bite. The bite is almost like a massage.

No, it is a massage.

Tycho opened the way to defeat. Thank you.


drzhivago
#135 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 12:58:10 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
drzhivago wrote:
drzhivago wrote:
[quote=hamburglar][quote=drzhivago]I would engage you but judging from this post and my other experiences reading your other posts, you never make any sense, so I leave you and your mumbo jumbo ramblings alone....Ramble on....


Laughing out loudly
this @tycho is really having fun with you and i can tell he's enjoying it. he makes no sense to you coz he's coming from a level that's deeper than you can fathom. he could tell you more but then you'd totally find yourself in knots



DrZhago (sorry to butcher your handle, i didn't catch your name....But it's not that important as long as we don't miss the Dr at the beginning of your handle, right? smile ), WHATEVER .... I would like to first congratulate you on your academic achievements and your distinction as a Dr....Good for you....I am always happy when my fellow man achieves lofty goals in life and I am genuinely happy for you...I truely mean it....Right off the bat, I want to let you know that I don't know jack about quantum physics...I will not even front to know the first thing about epigenetics or junk DNA and am fine with that....I am glad that you are so well versed in that regard, so more power to you....That stuff is just not in my plans to learn but if I ever do learn, I will be thrilled to know Godel's theorem and all the other stuff that you put on blast for everybody to see..... YOU SPECIFICALLY, WHEN YOU GET THE INCLINATION TO STUDY (AS I KNOW YOU WILL), YOU LET ME KNOW HOW SENSIBLE IT IS TO YOU. When I do happy hour tomorrow, I will have a drink to that...Those are some big words spot, you are the "MAN" :) ..lol..Dude, who you are trading barbs here with is a very confident guy that can't be shaken.....AM NOT TRADING BARBS, AND DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO SHAKE ANYONE. So if your think that you have rattled me with talk about your scientific audiences and "esteemed" colleagues (but do I say), you are sorely mistaken...... NOT TRYNG TO RATTLE YOU MAN. BUT AM GLAD YOU ADMIT THERES SOME STUFF YOU DONT KNOW. THAT WAS MY POINT. Infact, I find it rather amusing that you had to pull stuff out of your ass to try and prove a point... AND THE POINT IS, I MAY NOT BE A LOW IQ DIMWIT OR DIMWHATEEVER YOUR DESCRIBED ME AS. FUNNY YOU SEEM TO FORGET YOU STARTED THIS, WITH YOUR FANCY INSULTS, REMEMBER?

So, ahem, the Dr on your handle is only your first degree???Only your first degreee??? PLEASE READ MY POST AGAIN, CARECULLY THIS TIME. Must be nice...lol...So, if you don't mind, and this is only if you don't mind, would you care to indulge us a bit on your second, third, fourth, seventeenth and twenty eigth degrees? What are those in? Do you have any degrees in Big talk? Makofi kwako, maybe you need a round of applause for you achievements...When I grow up, I want to be just like you....Laughing out loudly DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE ENGAGING IN INSUBSTANTIAL RIDICULE. AM SORRY BUT THAT IS BEYOND ME.

But just to let you know, all that stuff you mentioned above comes off as bragging, OH YEAH? I BET TALK OF CFA AND YOUR GOOD INCOME ISNT BRAGGING? almost like you have a chip on your shoulder and are ostensibly trying to show how educated you are by using it as a thin veil on a thread about religion, but then again, I have seen people with PHD's that are what we call educated fools....OF COURSE, YOU HAD TO BRING THAT IN JUST AS I PREDICTED, JUST SO THAT I FIT IN THE BOX YOU WOULD WANT TO PLACE ME IN. SORRY DUDE, TRY ANOTHER ONE. People like you confuse education and intelligence....You can throw around all the fancy words you know about quantum physics to show people on wazua just how "deep" and educated you are, YOU CALL THESE FANCY WORDS? REALLY? but guys like me are hard to impress... NO ONE IS TRYING TO IMPRESS YOU BUDDY. AT LEAST NOT WITH A CLOSED MIND LIKE YOU HAVE

Like I said, it would take a lot to faze me my friend....So, knock yourself out, show us more quantum physics.....Academia is good, but don't let that get into your head and think that you are better than everybody else....For your information, I am a CFA....I got my MBA at Wharton Business School through a program that was sponsored by E & Y when I was working there....I make a really good living....Anybody that knows anything about CFA's will tell you that we are not too shabby. BLAH BLAH BLAH ... WHATS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
A few people on wazua know me personally and they know that I am the most grounded person around... GOOD FOR YOU AND THEM, I GUESS THEN ITS ONLY IN WAZUA WHERE YOU INSULT PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW?

I can throw around big words associated with my line of work too, just like you did, but that would only make me sound foolish, right?.....Maybe one day we will have a competition to see who has the biggest words in their vocabulary,:) AND I BET THIS WONT BE FOOLISH? but until that day, I will not exhaust you with any big words, I know you have better things to do at your research lab....hehehehehe....Education is good but that is not what defines me as a human being...MAN YOU REALLY CONTRADICT YOURSELF ... What defines me is what I do for my fellow man...I am not militant at all, infact I am very civil and tolerant, you guys can take my comments with a grain of salt, that’s the essence of free speech….Some people will see where I am coming from and some will not but I will still keep posting my views to those who find value in them..... ITS A FREE WORLD, ITS A FREE FORUM

Listen dude, I have been very successful both formally and informally...let's just say that you would be hard pressed to fnd anybody in my age group that has achieved more financial success than me and I apologize to anyone who might find this offensive or see it as a brag, but even with what I have achieved, I still understand that with success comes responsibility…..That stuff is all material, what matters s what you do with it at the end of the day…..I have a responsibility to take care of my fellow man that might not be as fortunate as I have been....I sponsor kids and pay school fees in Kenya for so many kids than I care to share with anybody about, because I have a deep deep desire to serve unfortunate kids….I will be in Kenya in January to get my Children’s home building off the ground and maybe we can even have a drink and talk about how we can help the kids…....Ama? :) ..I have the land I have the funds now I just need to get things rolling and that is what I care about more than anything in this world, more than this little fight that we have here or anything else that anybody thinks about me…... GOOD THAT YOU ARE DOING ALL THESE THINGS, BUT WHY DOES IT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF? NO ONE'S JUDGING YOU BUT YOURSELF. The only reason that you guys are ganging up against me and why people on this website hate my guts is because I am an atheist….. JEEZ! THAT'S SIEGE MENTALITY. NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU BELIEVE OR PRACTICE. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ATTACK WHAT OTHERS PRACTICE NO ONE WILL BE INCLINED RESPOND IN KIND. That’s the bottom line, but then again, that’s theists for you, they call themselves children of god and yet I have been banned from so may theists homes and am not even offended… GEE, AM SO SORRY FOR YOU MAN, BUT NEXT TIME TRY NOT TO PUT ON YOUR SUPERIOR AM BETTER THAN YOU DIMWITS ATHEIST ATTITUDE, THEY MAY EVEN ACCOMMODATE YOU. Same theists are most welcome in my home…. HOW NOBLE OF YOU ... But I digress....If you come here and tell me that you are doing something for mankind. THAT'S WHAT I DO EVERYDAY, BUT THEN AM NOT GONNA DEBATE THAT WITH YOU instead of coming here to brag about your expertise in quantum physics, IF YOU CALL IT BRAGGING, THEN SO BE IT. I MUST HAVE EARNED THE RIGHTS. I might respect you....You and tycho can impress each other with big words and throw YesuWangu into that mix too....We get it, you guys are educated, you have a way with words, you know all the fancy words and are "deep", I can hardly pronounce some of the words that you said in your post, lol, but that just proves to me what I already suspected about you and tycho……You are not really trying to give any valuable input into this website, you are hear to showboat your “deep” conversation…lol….You did impress YesuWangu and now she is also falling over herself trying to sound intellectual with big words that really don’t mean anything in the long run other than proving a “look at me, I know big words and am kicking hamburgalr’s ass with the fancy words” complex….lol…very impressive, just not to me, YOU SAID THAT BEFORE maybe to some impressionable folks around here....That just shows how much of an inferiority complex you guys have….That chip will make you keel over if you are not careful.....it's really hard to faze me,.. MAN! DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING HOW UNFAZED YOU ARE? AS IN REALLY? I might be young but I have seen way bigger things than all your fancy quantum physics combined....You are what I call small minds....THERE YOU GO AGAIN WITH YOUR INSLUTS. YOU CANT HELP YOURSELF, CAN YOU? Always ready to show people how much education you have while in reality nobody cares a...Show me how many kids you have helped, how many homeless people you have assisted, what your plans for humanity are and I will be impressed….That is the essence of life, maybe you should try it sometime....But until then, you, YesuWangu and Tycho can continue impressing each other with fancy words and quantum physics, while the rest of us use simple language to communicate our help to the needy..... YOU ARE IMPOSSIBLE, I GIVE UP

Like you said, I don't understand shit that tycho talks about and I know a lot of people here echo my sentiments and think that this tycho fellow should be in some sort of mental facility, but that’s just me....Your deepness , lol, doesn’t bother me one bit because if that is the "deep" level that you guys are on, then good for you, I am very very fine with my depth....My depth has made me very very successful and I don’t have any desire to get to your ,ahem, pompous “look at me” depth….JUSTIFY YOURSELF ALL YOU CAN, BUT WE CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU. But don’t stop now, you are impressing a lot of people, you even have people like that philanga character coming out of the woodworks to claim his piece of the “lynch hamburglar” pie.....UNDER SIEGE! DANG! Only thing is that, I am wayyyyyyy ahead of the game fellas, I don’t sweat the small stuff, I am on a different level… YEAH? .. I know what my purpose in life is so I don’t care what you or any of the lynchmob on wazua think…... WHAT LYNCH MOB? YOU THINK YOU ARE REALLY THAT IMPORTANT? Metaphorically, am a corporation so kiosks don’t bother me. YOUR EGO IS REALLY THAT MUCH RATTLED HA! THIS IS ITS SELF-REPAIR MODE. Take your best shots ladies and gentlemen, I look forward to your big words and more quantum physics lessons…
. NO MORE OF THAT. AND I REST.
tycho
#136 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 1:07:10 PM
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@hamburglar, Indeed it was obvious that your were 'jesting'. I could count four clues to suggest this. I'd like to mention them.
1. You were saying for the second time, 'before I engage you, do this . . .' I asked myself what you were doing if you were not engaging me?
2. Your second question was an out right give away. You were having doubts within yourself.
3. The questions were no where near what a psychiatrist would ask.
4. You were asking the same question all through. . .

Surely, would it be wrong if I tried to do something more interesting with my time?

You did well to mention 3d in your test. I realized that I could use all the dimensions available at the same time!

Then I decided, 'let me give him some clues'. I said that I know you. I made you the child with the magnifying glass. And I told you to burn.

There's this thought you have been toying with that is totally useless. You think I need a following. How can I need a following when I am the breath you are taking?

Here are some of the revelations I got from this episode.

Atheism is selfish in essence. You thought you were the only one with initiative. Just as atheists claim that God cannot be proven appeal only to the individualized self.

Even if the isolated self was to be accepted, and it's capacity to reason was strong (high IQ etc.) it would still not be sufficient. Such an isolated mind cannot even make 'a better world'. It can't even judge matters correctly.

This second observation is a dominant feature of atheism, but is not restricted to it.

The problems above can only be resolved by being in community and having multiple channels of communication including revelation.

Therefore, the atheist cannot argue against revelation without destroying himself.

In fact, all the rebuttals offered by atheism are meaningless.

You have always claimed @Ham, that what I write is gibberish and therefore I should be dismissed. But haven't you heard of the Dadaist? Gibberish is the height of atheism.

Why are you coming here to give your alms? Are there not orphans where you are? Please keep your cents, humanity doesn't need them!

But you want a yes or no answer on God's existence. Yes, I exist! And now don't come with your cancer problems because I have already dealt with them in an earlier post.

You think that declaring my insanity is a way out. You are very mistaken. Now surely, you are running back to the herd shouting, 'I am way ahead!' 'A mad man is chasing me!' 'I don't believe in the herd!' Now, do you think they'll fail to take you straight to hospital?

Just tell us when you'll be arriving!
King G
#137 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 1:07:31 PM
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smile or Sad
Thieves
YesuWangu
#138 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 1:42:24 PM
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hamburglar wrote:


…I know what my purpose in life is so I don’t care what you or any of the lynchmob on wazua think….


Tell us more about this purpose.

Where is this purpose from?

Who gave it to you? Whom did you accept it from? Is He then greater than you? Does He exist?

Or no one gave it to you? Did you then 'create' it yourself? Are you then not a 'man-god' a 'creator'? Do you exist?

Like I said, 1 of 2 poles .....
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#139 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 3:14:15 PM
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Ever heard of someone living in self denial? That very person is always a disgrace even to those who brought them here on earth?
How sad!!
Picture someone going back to 'his father' saying, i possess more knowledge than you,more wisdom and understanding than you do.
@SufficientlyP
maka
#140 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 3:21:37 PM
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What if indeed there is a God and at 1 point in time the world does come to an end and judgement thereafter takes place,would the atheist admit they were wrong?
possunt quia posse videntur
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